Ergonomic Keyboards anyone?
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
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I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...
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I had Carpal tunnel problems and was able to correct it by using the Logitech Wave and the Microsoft Natural keyboards. I found the Microsoft Natural keyboard is more reliable/problem free than the Logitech Wave keyboard. I cannot say if these keyboards will provide relief for arthritis. Given their relatively low price, it might be worthwhile buying one just to try - my recommendation would be the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Good luck, Ian
I had a Wave too, wireless. I don't know why but it would buffer about 15 to 30 keystrokes then spit them all out at once from time to time. It was real irritating. I have since switch over to a good-ole wired natural ergonomic from microsoft.
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
Thanks to all. If the past is any indicator, I will now procrastinate for a few days and then buy the wrong thing. :( Thanks again.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
I bought Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Desktop a few months ago, I'm very pleased with the shape and feel. Awesome material quality too.
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
Unfortunately no longer made but I have had the same Microsoft Natural Pro for at least the last 16 or 17 years and yes it is dirty, (somewhere in between the first two pictures in the link) but it has been really reliable although I did have to take the space key mechanism apart when it started jamming as I continually use the left hand side (clean patch) but a few minutes work soon saw that working well again Apart from the fact that I am a slob :( you can even deduce languages that aren't used by looking at how dirty the []{} keys are Microsoft Blog[^] Before I started using this keyboard my wrists used to ache and putting my hand in my trouser pockets was particularly uncomfortable (helped stop me getting the wallet out though :-D )
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Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!
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I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...
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You're going to need the right spider as well - I suggest your local Zoo may be able to help with that one.
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
I have a PS/2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard from 1995 that I use everyday for the last 22 years. I took it with me every where I go, had changed jobs half dozen times since then. It collects so much bread-crumbs but it's the best keyboard. I'm very clumsy programming using laptop keyboard or those straight up one. My only fear is that soon PC would stop supporting PS/2. :) I have had all kinds other natural ergo keyboards, one that comes apart into two, vertical one, even other same version Microsoft Natural Keyboard(pro, 4000, 6000), none of them I compare to this old one. It has to have the right key weight -- not too hard.
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I own 2 of these (1 work and 1 at home) and have been buying them since they were made available (back in 95 I think): Microsoft Natural ergonomic -- amazon[^] They allow your wrists to rest in their natural state but you have to be a touch typist to use them. Natural state of wrist rest is: * curved fingers * arms turned slightly in (palms slightly facing each other) * wrists aligned (not bent) with the rest of the arm (wrists not bent and pinching internally) * arms supported on desktop --- not forcing shoulders to hold arm weight You can see these keyboards at local office supply stores. ** Also, once you use this keyboard for a few days and try a regular one again, you will notice that your wrists were actually twisted outwards for typing.
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I also use this keyboard and my wrists have hurt a lot less since starting with it. For what it's worth, I also use a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side. Takes a bit getting used to, but helps tremendously with the pain.
vaderjm wrote:
a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side
I have two "cursor/pointer" devices. One for each hand. A mouse for my right hand and a trackball for my left hand so I can vary usage throughout the day. I really like the trackball best though.
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vaderjm wrote:
a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side
I have two "cursor/pointer" devices. One for each hand. A mouse for my right hand and a trackball for my left hand so I can vary usage throughout the day. I really like the trackball best though.
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Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]
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Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]
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I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.
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I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.
Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.
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Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.
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It is interesting to me that very few people use them. They have a lot of advantages and relieve a lot of stress on your hand. You can set your hand up so it is level and then use very little movement and be more precise with a trackball than a mouse a lot of times. Here's the one I really like and it's only $22.99 Amazon.com: Logitech Trackman Marble Mouse, Four-Button, Programmable, Dark Gray: Electronics[^] EDIT By the way, I bought two of these back in '96 or so and I'm still using the one I've used for work all those years. Amazing. The other one got a sticky button, but it lasted 15 years or something. :thumbsup:
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Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous
I don't use one of those ergonomic models, not a touch typist so they REALLY slow me down, but I have one of those original IBM model M "clicky" keyboards that I've held onto for decades and absolutely love. I find the very positive feedback of the "click" (mechanical feel and sound) reduces the force I put into typing which saves a lot on the fatigue I feel at the end of a long day of writing code. If I could get one that was "ergonomic" I might give it a try but it would take me a while to get my typing speed back up to what it is with a conventional "straight" keyboard. The one downside I've recently encountered with it is the lack of a "Windows" key, but I was able to remap the left ALT to that function so it's not a huge issue. I tried a Microsoft "Natural" years ago when my wife purchased one, felt like I was typing on a sponge, I hated the thing.
