1920x1080 in 21,5" or in 24" what is your preference?
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Not an option here. Believe me or not, but I'll have a set up of 3 displays (laptop + two 22" or 24") and I really hate now when I try to move the cursor from the big ones to the laptop one it can be a nightmare if you have the cursor below the 1080. Well, not a nightmare but it can be annoying. Moreover the displays I can get at my TI provider mostly are 1080p or much bigger. We are speaking of 120px which I can live without. Thank you for your comment.
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What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!
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I run three 22" monitors 1600x1200 in portrait mode for Visual Studio, etc. and one 24" 1920x1080 in landscape for everything that looks better in landscape - plus a couple of others that I keep changing.
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I run three 22" monitors 1600x1200 in portrait mode for Visual Studio, etc. and one 24" 1920x1080 in landscape for everything that looks better in landscape - plus a couple of others that I keep changing.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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No joke icon so I guess you are being serious here... If that's the case... is the 24" at 1920x1080 blurry or worse in terms of eye strain? Thank you for your post.
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I keep the brightness at 50%, the contrast a little higher than default and the screen is clean - no smudges or fingerprints on my non-touch screens. I get no eye-strain at all that I am aware of and I use these screens, arranged side by side in a curve all to be about 30" away from my face, for a 10 to 12 hour day, every day. I have almost the same arrangement at home which I use in the evenings and weekends with no noticeable eye-strain. I have no idea what the dpi of any of these are - it doesn't matter, they are all clear and readable and running at 100% text setting. I run Visual Studio using Consolas 9pt for my text and it is clear and easy. I only zoom it when I am showing someone something and they are looking over my shoulder. Often they say they don't need that so it must be clear enough for them too. [Edit] The important thing is to run the screens at their "native" resolution. I had a complaint from a user that even though she ran the screen at 1024x768 it was still blurry. I increased the resolution to the native 1280x1024 which she complained about, "Now it's going to be small AND blurry" but it turned out that it was slightly smaller text but crystal clear and so easier to read and no eye-strain. She was, amazingly, happy.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I will end buying two of them and place them side by side so no way I'll get two big beasts of 27 or more! :laugh: I was worried about the pixel density, but it seems that most people here thinks bigger is better keeping the same resolution so... Probably I will go this way. The problem I have is that is very difficult to see Lenovo and/or Dell displays at the typical places you can get this kind of gadgets here in Catalonia... So I'll have to get them online and therefore is really difficult to evaluate them, but based on the numbers Lenovo ThinkVision T22i-10 or T24i-10 (the T23i-10 seems not to be available) look nice and interesting. Thank you for your post and comment! :thumbsup:
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10% DPI isn't a huge deal either way. I'd go for the 24's if you've got the space. If your budget permits I'd consider higher DPI models; glitches are W10 are rare enough now to not be a major issue and the extra pixels make the text a lot clearer. The Dell P2416D[^] is only $300 here. No clue if you can find it at a reasonable price where you are. I've seen similar monitors for as little as $200; but the cheapest ones don't have VESA mounting points; so they won't work with your monitor arm. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
I've always preferred 1920x1200, but its getting really difficult to find monitors in that resolution/aspect ratio. Whatever the resolution, 24" seems to be the current "sweet-spot", although 27" is becoming more popular. EDIT TO ADD: For anyone who finds it difficult keeping straight the various resolutions and their aspect ratios, like I do, there is a great image on this wiki page that helps.
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What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
I finally got them to give me two 24" to replace the two 22" I had. A world better. Two x 24" also what I have at home.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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10% DPI isn't a huge deal either way. I'd go for the 24's if you've got the space. If your budget permits I'd consider higher DPI models; glitches are W10 are rare enough now to not be a major issue and the extra pixels make the text a lot clearer. The Dell P2416D[^] is only $300 here. No clue if you can find it at a reasonable price where you are. I've seen similar monitors for as little as $200; but the cheapest ones don't have VESA mounting points; so they won't work with your monitor arm. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Hi Dan! Thank you for posting. I've just seen a Lenovo P24H-10 which is 23.8" has 2560 x 1440 resolution VESA compatible and costs only 30€ more than what I'm looking at. Will I have problems with that resolution in a 23.8 display? Of course the monitor and the price are wonderful, but... is it a good choice? Mainly I'm programming, office, mails, internet... Thank you again.
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Hi Dan! Thank you for posting. I've just seen a Lenovo P24H-10 which is 23.8" has 2560 x 1440 resolution VESA compatible and costs only 30€ more than what I'm looking at. Will I have problems with that resolution in a 23.8 display? Of course the monitor and the price are wonderful, but... is it a good choice? Mainly I'm programming, office, mails, internet... Thank you again.
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I've been using high DPI for a year and a half on my laptop and as 1 screen of three on my work laptop for the last 9. I haven't had any issues; just set the scaling in windows to an appropraite level and enjoy the sharper text. If you're working on old WinForm apps, you might have scaling problems with them. OTOH that's just bringing forward that some winform controls don't scale nicely, and AFAIK any custom layout math you did needs to have the DPI factor in to work right. But those're problems any end users on newer systems are running into anyway.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
For many years I've been using 3 monitors. These are 20" Viewsonic VP2030b at 1200 X 1600 resolution. These all failed after about 4 years - I had a shop replace all the capacitors on the Main boards and they all work great again - hopefully forever? Contrast = 60 and brightness = 40. Recently dropped brightness - big help! In Windows 10 try CALIBRATE DISPLAY COLOR which is hard to find. Select settings and then type in 'Calibrate Display Color'. Set Gamma (makes a difference), test for correct brightness and contrast, and go through the Clear Text setting last. I now have all the monitors set correctly and set the same. Now I can last for 10 - 12 hours.
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I've been using high DPI for a year and a half on my laptop and as 1 screen of three on my work laptop for the last 9. I haven't had any issues; just set the scaling in windows to an appropraite level and enjoy the sharper text. If you're working on old WinForm apps, you might have scaling problems with them. OTOH that's just bringing forward that some winform controls don't scale nicely, and AFAIK any custom layout math you did needs to have the DPI factor in to work right. But those're problems any end users on newer systems are running into anyway.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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I've always preferred 1920x1200, but its getting really difficult to find monitors in that resolution/aspect ratio. Whatever the resolution, 24" seems to be the current "sweet-spot", although 27" is becoming more popular. EDIT TO ADD: For anyone who finds it difficult keeping straight the various resolutions and their aspect ratios, like I do, there is a great image on this wiki page that helps.
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I finally got them to give me two 24" to replace the two 22" I had. A world better. Two x 24" also what I have at home.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I've just found a 24" Lenovo with 2560 x 1440 at only 30€ more. I think I'll go that way. I can't simply put two 27" monitors together on my desk. :laugh: Thank you Sam!
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For many years I've been using 3 monitors. These are 20" Viewsonic VP2030b at 1200 X 1600 resolution. These all failed after about 4 years - I had a shop replace all the capacitors on the Main boards and they all work great again - hopefully forever? Contrast = 60 and brightness = 40. Recently dropped brightness - big help! In Windows 10 try CALIBRATE DISPLAY COLOR which is hard to find. Select settings and then type in 'Calibrate Display Color'. Set Gamma (makes a difference), test for correct brightness and contrast, and go through the Clear Text setting last. I now have all the monitors set correctly and set the same. Now I can last for 10 - 12 hours.
Hi DanW52! Thank you for your post. I've found this[^] Lenovo 24" monitor with 2560 x 1440 resolution. I guess I'll get two of them as they only cost 30€ more than what I was thinking of buying. In the monitors I have now I can see some almost imperceptible shadows that I think won't disappear unless I sacrifice a hen in front of them an as I don't have any spare hen now... :rolleyes:
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It looks like there is no real reason for getting two 24" monitors at 1920 x 1080 when I can get two at 2560 x 1440. Thank you!
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Well you could get 24" 4k's instead. At least initially i was reluctant to suggest too much budget expansion though. :laugh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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I've just found a 24" Lenovo with 2560 x 1440 at only 30€ more. I think I'll go that way. I can't simply put two 27" monitors together on my desk. :laugh: Thank you Sam!
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That just means you need a bigger desk! ;P
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Portrait mode is the answer if your desk isn't very wide.
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:rolleyes: I don't want to go that way, time ago I used the two 24" HP monitors in portrait mode and ended with neck pain. I'll stick with the normal way and smaller monitors... not 27... I really think they would be too big. Thanks! :thumbsup:
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Thank you for your post W∴ Balboos! I've found the Lenovo P24h-10[^] which costs 30€ more and offers 2560 x 1440. I think we have a winner.
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You are welcome. Another configuration I have at home: Refurbished PC -> HDIM -> 49" TV. This was gotten for viewing media, but I've used it now and then to work remotely. Only one screen - so that jury that's still out you've heard about? It's still out. My curiosity - for these new 'super wide' monitors. Assuming there's enough vertical height to make it usable (very very important !)*, how does it compare to two side-by-side. The bar's missing, but full-screen can become a problem. If yours is one of these, let me know how it works out. I was given a media laptop, back when I lost everything to Hurricane Sandy. It's the wide-screen aspect ratio. I had a sad choice: wide, but not enough lines (hassle) or full-document, which was so small it was unusable. Better than the nothing I had before it, but a horrible situation. Make absolutely sure you've enough vertical height (in human measurements).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010