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1920x1080 in 21,5" or in 24" what is your preference?

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  • F Forogar

    Portrait mode is the answer if your desk isn't very wide.

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    Joan M
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    :rolleyes: I don't want to go that way, time ago I used the two 24" HP monitors in portrait mode and ended with neck pain. I'll stick with the normal way and smaller monitors... not 27... I really think they would be too big. Thanks! :thumbsup:

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    • J Joan M

      Thank you for your post W∴ Balboos! I've found the Lenovo P24h-10[^] which costs 30€ more and offers 2560 x 1440. I think we have a winner.

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      W Balboos GHB
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      You are welcome. Another configuration I have at home: Refurbished PC -> HDIM -> 49" TV. This was gotten for viewing media, but I've used it now and then to work remotely. Only one screen - so that jury that's still out you've heard about? It's still out. My curiosity - for these new 'super wide' monitors. Assuming there's enough vertical height to make it usable (very very important !)*, how does it compare to two side-by-side. The bar's missing, but full-screen can become a problem. If yours is one of these, let me know how it works out. I was given a media laptop, back when I lost everything to Hurricane Sandy. It's the wide-screen aspect ratio. I had a sad choice: wide, but not enough lines (hassle) or full-document, which was so small it was unusable. Better than the nothing I had before it, but a horrible situation. Make absolutely sure you've enough vertical height (in human measurements).

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      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • D Dan Neely

        Well you could get 24" 4k's instead. At least initially i was reluctant to suggest too much budget expansion though. :laugh:

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        Joan M
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        That would be around 300€ more and this is not on my business plan... :rolleyes: :laugh: The QHD will be more than enough and much better than what I do have now. Thank you! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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          That would be around 300€ more and this is not on my business plan... :rolleyes: :laugh: The QHD will be more than enough and much better than what I do have now. Thank you! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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          Dan Neely
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          That's what I figured. 4k's still a fairly large premium and with your starting at 1080p I didn't think yours would scale that high.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            You are welcome. Another configuration I have at home: Refurbished PC -> HDIM -> 49" TV. This was gotten for viewing media, but I've used it now and then to work remotely. Only one screen - so that jury that's still out you've heard about? It's still out. My curiosity - for these new 'super wide' monitors. Assuming there's enough vertical height to make it usable (very very important !)*, how does it compare to two side-by-side. The bar's missing, but full-screen can become a problem. If yours is one of these, let me know how it works out. I was given a media laptop, back when I lost everything to Hurricane Sandy. It's the wide-screen aspect ratio. I had a sad choice: wide, but not enough lines (hassle) or full-document, which was so small it was unusable. Better than the nothing I had before it, but a horrible situation. Make absolutely sure you've enough vertical height (in human measurements).

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Joan M
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            Well, now I'm working with three monitors using W10, laptop (1920x1080) and two 24" displays (1920x1200). The taskbar appears in all of them, the only pita is that when you press the windows key the menu always gets opened in the main display and not in the one you have the mouse cursor or in the one you are working in. I hope to replace those two old 24" monitors with a good brand new pair of monitors. So, no real change of view... it'll be only a healthy improvement for me.

            www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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            • L Leng Vang

              Unless you are planning to do FPS gaming where refresh rate is essential, I consider strongly using a 4K tv. Mine is 55" 4K. I also have a 32" 144hz monitor for FPS gaming. 21" or even 23" are just too small these days.

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              Joan M
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              No games on that computer, only work... :(( So I don't need a monitor that big... two of them side by side to get the job done as soon as possible and of course, in a comfortable way. Thank you for posting!

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              • D DanW52

                For many years I've been using 3 monitors. These are 20" Viewsonic VP2030b at 1200 X 1600 resolution. These all failed after about 4 years - I had a shop replace all the capacitors on the Main boards and they all work great again - hopefully forever? Contrast = 60 and brightness = 40. Recently dropped brightness - big help! In Windows 10 try CALIBRATE DISPLAY COLOR which is hard to find. Select settings and then type in 'Calibrate Display Color'. Set Gamma (makes a difference), test for correct brightness and contrast, and go through the Clear Text setting last. I now have all the monitors set correctly and set the same. Now I can last for 10 - 12 hours.

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                DanW52 wrote:

                These all failed after about 4 years

                Ouch. My pair of NEC 2090's have been going strong for over 9 years now, and an HP I've got as a spare/KVM monitor's done maybe 7 without problem. All bought as refurbs. I really wish someone'd launch a new entrant in this space. They're the perfect size to flank my 2560x1600, and will be only a half inch taller than the 32" 4k I'm currently lusting after. 16:9/10 are IMO too narrow for portrait use at any reasonable height. And while my current displays are still in working order, in addition to be rather old at this point; they're power pigs compared to new LED backlit models. At this point I'd settle for even just a new 1600x1200 panel; but would gladly trade up for 3200x2400 or other premium additions.

                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                • S sam silvercreek

                  That just means you need a bigger desk! ;P

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                  Joan M
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                  Yay! :laugh:

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                  • J Joan M

                    What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

                    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                    starmerak
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                    Honestly, for programming, two monitors is too few. For me: One monitor right, code One monitor left, google, code project, et al... One monitor middle, program run I feel I need one more monitor, maybe two..

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                    • S starmerak

                      Honestly, for programming, two monitors is too few. For me: One monitor right, code One monitor left, google, code project, et al... One monitor middle, program run I feel I need one more monitor, maybe two..

                      Amateur

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                      Joan M
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                      Hi starmerak! OK, I'm more than satisfied with one laptop and two 24" monitors... I do not need anything else... at least not now. but I guess that this is like a lot of things... more means better...

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                      • J Joan M

                        Hi starmerak! OK, I'm more than satisfied with one laptop and two 24" monitors... I do not need anything else... at least not now. but I guess that this is like a lot of things... more means better...

                        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                        starmerak
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                        Hmmm.. that IS more than two monitors.. ;)

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                          That's what I figured. 4k's still a fairly large premium and with your starting at 1080p I didn't think yours would scale that high.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          Joan M
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                          :thumbsup: I really would have missed that opportunity without your comment... I really would have skipped it directly... stupid me... :doh: But yes, 4K is too much for my budget... I guess with QHD I will get a huge improvement from what I have now. Thank you again!

                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                          • S starmerak

                            Hmmm.. that IS more than two monitors.. ;)

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                            Joan M
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                            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You are right! I got a wonderful Lenovo T460s laptop and a ultra dock docking station where I have two 24" monitors plugged in. Usually the laptop display is used for mail, music... and the two 24" for everything else... But I guess I'll stay that way for a long time. :cool:

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                              DanW52 wrote:

                              These all failed after about 4 years

                              Ouch. My pair of NEC 2090's have been going strong for over 9 years now, and an HP I've got as a spare/KVM monitor's done maybe 7 without problem. All bought as refurbs. I really wish someone'd launch a new entrant in this space. They're the perfect size to flank my 2560x1600, and will be only a half inch taller than the 32" 4k I'm currently lusting after. 16:9/10 are IMO too narrow for portrait use at any reasonable height. And while my current displays are still in working order, in addition to be rather old at this point; they're power pigs compared to new LED backlit models. At this point I'd settle for even just a new 1600x1200 panel; but would gladly trade up for 3200x2400 or other premium additions.

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                              DanW52
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                              It turned out that during the timeframe that these were being made, all capacitors in all electronics were unreliable. So it's not ViewSonic's fault. To get two of these you can go to ebay. Then take them straight to a shop and have them look at the boards to replace any capacitor that might not be working. You should get many years out of them after that. Unfortunately these monitors are 3 X 4 size ratio and I haven't been able to find any new ones. I still use these old ones because three of them make a nice semi-circle. Good Luck!

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                              • J Joan M

                                What would you choose? Same monitor series, no price difference. 1920x1080. A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.[^] B) 24" => 93 dpi.[^] For programming. Two monitors side by side. Mounted on articulated arm. Thank you all!

                                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                                obermd
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                                Neither - I'd pay the slight premium to get 1920x1200 in a 24" display. The extra 60 pixels at the top and bottom actually make a significant difference.

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                                  Neither - I'd pay the slight premium to get 1920x1200 in a 24" display. The extra 60 pixels at the top and bottom actually make a significant difference.

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                                  Joan M
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                                  Hi obermd, At the end I've went a little bit more premium and bought a couple of p24h-10 which are 2560x1440. For only 60€ more... I'll have a much better resolution, dpi and response time from 6 to 4ms. Thank you for your post!

                                  www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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