Manual transmission or automatic transmission?
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I haven't bought an automatic in 25-30 years, and even then, only because we needed bench seats front/back, and that was the only way to get them. Besides costing less, and keeping you in touch and aware of driving (safety), there's some hidden advantages. Many (perhaps most) people can't drive one. No one wants to borrow your care. If not sporty, but instead, economy, less likely to be stolen. Time to buy? Near end of model year, the dealer's much more likely to bargain when the vehicle's harder to sell. I bought a new 2012 after the 2013's came out. They knew I was doing them a favor. If I leave, they'll continue to pay interest on the vehicle (to the manufacturer) - and the money borrowed for it could be used for a shiny new car that they could sell - if I buy. The only time I'd switch to automatic is if I moved to where I'd be frequently caught in extremely bad traffic. On the other hand - if I lived in such a place, I'd take public transport, anyway.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Many (perhaps most) people can't drive one.
You must be an American :laugh: Over here in Europe, or at least the Netherlands, manual is the standard :) I wonder why you guys use automatic and we don't... We have very few roads where you can drive without changing gears for at least 15 minutes, it seems to me that you have a lot more of those!
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Manual, but only if you're willing to heel toe shift.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
I've never owned one, but my next car probably will be automatic. You know... nowadays one gets really bored on the road... you go at more than 80km/h and you could be at jail for a couple of years. If anyone would make a good car that would really drive autonomously I would take that one... Then you could sleep (or whatever you would fancy) while going to work. So if we must get bored at the road, then at least do it comfortably and avoid doing repetitive tasks at the same time. :cool: So automatic here... PS: and for the ludites... I saw a Top Gear show in which they stated the McLaren Mercedes SLR was the fastest car they had tried that season and it was automatic... So the real question should not be automatic or manual... the real question is, as almost always, how much money do you have to get a proper car? :rolleyes:
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
A bit but not to 100%. With manual transmission you have more and better control. Some automatic transmission have also a manual mode. Such fine grained control is Android. On Apple you have only a Start/Stop button and the Windows car needs a reboot to drive ;-)
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Many (perhaps most) people can't drive one.
You must be an American :laugh: Over here in Europe, or at least the Netherlands, manual is the standard :) I wonder why you guys use automatic and we don't... We have very few roads where you can drive without changing gears for at least 15 minutes, it seems to me that you have a lot more of those!
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Well, more than anything else, marketing. Also, as the national ownership of vehicles became nearly universal, the number of those who couldn't/wouldn't learn to drive when it was a standard transmission could now just step on the gas peddle and go. Like so many things, it's part of the conflicting concepts of something being egalitarian and 'dumbing down'. Elitism vs Competency. Not necessarily gospal w.r.t. statistics, but it's probably in the ballpark: The disappearing stick shift: Less than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transmissions[^] I like the feel of doing things - so I don't mind - and even prefer by nature - the standard. Most people want everything done for them. Cooking from scratch vs. Frozen Dinner. javascript vs. jQuery vs. etc etc etc. Which opens up a whole new discussion.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Mohibur Rashid wrote:
manual transmission is more like an android phone.
Why?
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He probably means manual is like an Android (closer to the metal) while the automatic is like an iOS phone (easier to use, hides underlying design from the end user).
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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Auto. Nowadays manual are basically like fax machines, getting redundant. However I'm not a fan of some of these new breed my autos, dual clutch, cvt etc, The car we got for the missus has a dual clutch gearbox and it's a horrible piece of satan blessed sh*t. It's had to be rebuilt by the dealer under warranty. Never touch one of them again. I like the plain old tranditional autos.
In the US, very few (I'd guess less than 5%) drivers can drive a stick-shift (manual) car.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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In the US, very few (I'd guess less than 5%) drivers can drive a stick-shift (manual) car.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
@John-Simmons-outlaw-programmer : I know you are a big Mustang guy, do you drive a stick-shift or an automatic? If the latter does it have those optional paddle shifters?
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Many (perhaps most) people can't drive one.
You must be an American :laugh: Over here in Europe, or at least the Netherlands, manual is the standard :) I wonder why you guys use automatic and we don't... We have very few roads where you can drive without changing gears for at least 15 minutes, it seems to me that you have a lot more of those!
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Mohibur Rashid wrote:
What do you think?
About what?
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Auto. Nowadays manual are basically like fax machines, getting redundant. However I'm not a fan of some of these new breed my autos, dual clutch, cvt etc, The car we got for the missus has a dual clutch gearbox and it's a horrible piece of satan blessed sh*t. It's had to be rebuilt by the dealer under warranty. Never touch one of them again. I like the plain old tranditional autos.
My first car, an early 60's hilman I needed to double clutch particularly changing down - didn't know that that car was so far ahead of it's time. These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true. For ordinary driving particularly commuting (i.e. traffic jams) auto really is better - no longer young so way past the need to drop wheelspins at every traffic light. For driving between cities auto/manual same-o same-o (but consider for very long drives usually cruise control integrates better with auto). One stage had 15 cars - mostly auto but had one well set up older manual (and well tuned muscle memory to suit) in which I'd beat any auto and most motorbikes off the line for the first km or so without even thinking about it (most fun was leaving idiots in brand new bmw's behind that tried to pass before lanes merged.) But at the time though most favourite when running local was a 50cc scooter (they called "auto" but in fact some sort of clv set up), could park it anywhere, bypass most jams, and it ran for a fortnight on half a gallon of gas. Top speed 50km/h (30 mph) - could do 60 down hill - fast enough on little wheels.
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If you are not going to decide when to change gears you might as well take the train. :-D (Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
That made me smile, thanks! :-D I drive a manual too, but the wife is, let's say... still learning. Sometimes I wonder if she'd have picked up driving an automatic quicker :sigh:
Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:
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He probably means manual is like an Android (closer to the metal) while the automatic is like an iOS phone (easier to use, hides underlying design from the end user).
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Exactly!
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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That made me smile, thanks! :-D I drive a manual too, but the wife is, let's say... still learning. Sometimes I wonder if she'd have picked up driving an automatic quicker :sigh:
Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:
Are you in India? If so, automatics would certainly be more convenient, especially in metro areas with bad Indian traffic.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
It's open to development, is easily hacked and is often found in low quality hardware? You've lost me...
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Finally somebody noticed that. :-) A parking brake with a throttle grip! And it's on the left side of the seat! :-)
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Just like the answer to most questions on here, it all depends. Manual transmission is like Assembly language. You have the power and control, but it is more work. That being said, want go off road? Manual. Towing? Manual. My last two Chrysler products have what they called 'AutoStick'. Basically I can manually change the gears if I want to or I can just put it in drive and go. Haven't towed anything or gone off road with 'Autostick' so I can't tell if it is the same or different from a manual.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
As a youngster I would not have contemplated driving an automatic. Now, who can be bothered? I just want to get from A to B as quickly and comfortably as possible.
