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  • N Nish Nishant

    In the US, very few (I'd guess less than 5%) drivers can drive a stick-shift (manual) car.

    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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    Nish Nishant
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    @John-Simmons-outlaw-programmer : I know you are a big Mustang guy, do you drive a stick-shift or an automatic? If the latter does it have those optional paddle shifters?

    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      Many (perhaps most) people can't drive one.

      You must be an American :laugh: Over here in Europe, or at least the Netherlands, manual is the standard :) I wonder why you guys use automatic and we don't... We have very few roads where you can drive without changing gears for at least 15 minutes, it seems to me that you have a lot more of those!

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      Guess where I got the inspiration for this hamburger: Let's begin with some traditional stuff: Bun, two beef patties (with molten cheese inbetween and some fresh tomatoes. And then this: Mayonaise, curry ketchup and chopped raw onion.

      The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)

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      • M Mohibur Rashid

        From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?

        I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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        David Crow
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        Mohibur Rashid wrote:

        What do you think?

        About what?

        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

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        • R RossMW

          Auto. Nowadays manual are basically like fax machines, getting redundant. However I'm not a fan of some of these new breed my autos, dual clutch, cvt etc, The car we got for the missus has a dual clutch gearbox and it's a horrible piece of satan blessed sh*t. It's had to be rebuilt by the dealer under warranty. Never touch one of them again. I like the plain old tranditional autos.

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          Lost User
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          My first car, an early 60's hilman I needed to double clutch particularly changing down - didn't know that that car was so far ahead of it's time. These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true. For ordinary driving particularly commuting (i.e. traffic jams) auto really is better - no longer young so way past the need to drop wheelspins at every traffic light. For driving between cities auto/manual same-o same-o (but consider for very long drives usually cruise control integrates better with auto). One stage had 15 cars - mostly auto but had one well set up older manual (and well tuned muscle memory to suit) in which I'd beat any auto and most motorbikes off the line for the first km or so without even thinking about it (most fun was leaving idiots in brand new bmw's behind that tried to pass before lanes merged.) But at the time though most favourite when running local was a 50cc scooter (they called "auto" but in fact some sort of clv set up), could park it anywhere, bypass most jams, and it ran for a fortnight on half a gallon of gas. Top speed 50km/h (30 mph) - could do 60 down hill - fast enough on little wheels.

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          • C CodeWraith

            That's harmless. You know you are sitting in the wrong seat when the parking brake has a twist grip for the throttle, like this.[^]

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            Forogar
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            That's a helicopter! You are really in the wrong seat!

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            • D Duncan Edwards Jones

              If you are not going to decide when to change gears you might as well take the train. :-D (Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              That made me smile, thanks! :-D I drive a manual too, but the wife is, let's say... still learning. Sometimes I wonder if she'd have picked up driving an automatic quicker :sigh:

              Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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              • N Nish Nishant

                He probably means manual is like an Android (closer to the metal) while the automatic is like an iOS phone (easier to use, hides underlying design from the end user).

                Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                Mohibur Rashid
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                Exactly!

                I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  That made me smile, thanks! :-D I drive a manual too, but the wife is, let's say... still learning. Sometimes I wonder if she'd have picked up driving an automatic quicker :sigh:

                  Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Are you in India? If so, automatics would certainly be more convenient, especially in metro areas with bad Indian traffic.

                  Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                  • M Mohibur Rashid

                    From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?

                    I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    It's open to development, is easily hacked and is often found in low quality hardware? You've lost me...

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • F Forogar

                      That's a helicopter! You are really in the wrong seat!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      CodeWraith
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                      Finally somebody noticed that. :-) A parking brake with a throttle grip! And it's on the left side of the seat! :-)

                      The user can't update the up: we update it for them (Choice in the CP poll)

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                      • M Mohibur Rashid

                        From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?

                        I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                        Ron Nicholson
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                        Just like the answer to most questions on here, it all depends. Manual transmission is like Assembly language. You have the power and control, but it is more work. That being said, want go off road? Manual. Towing? Manual. My last two Chrysler products have what they called 'AutoStick'. Basically I can manually change the gears if I want to or I can just put it in drive and go. Haven't towed anything or gone off road with 'Autostick' so I can't tell if it is the same or different from a manual.

                        Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                        • M Mohibur Rashid

                          From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?

                          I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                          As a youngster I would not have contemplated driving an automatic. Now, who can be bothered? I just want to get from A to B as quickly and comfortably as possible.

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                          • M Mohibur Rashid

                            From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?

                            I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            It sounds like you are creating an analogy between Android phones and iPhones that parallels a comparison between manual and automatic transmissions. **<caveat>**I have an Android phone.**</caveat>** Android, like a manual transmission, gives you greater choice in how to operate the phone/device. For the performance-minded and those that like to customize their experience, Android would be preferred. iPhone OTOH, simply works. It does the job and stays out of your way, just like an automatic transmission.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              He probably means manual is like an Android (closer to the metal) while the automatic is like an iOS phone (easier to use, hides underlying design from the end user).

                              Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                              Slacker007
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                              Nish, you're so smart. :-D

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                                Nish, you're so smart. :-D

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                That sounds suspiciously like an underhanded compliment. :rolleyes:

                                Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  It's open to development, is easily hacked and is often found in low quality hardware? You've lost me...

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  I don't think the Android is any more hackable than an iPhone. iPhone users may swear otherwise, but people who've used both feel they are pretty much the same when it comes to stability, security, etc.

                                  Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    It sounds like you are creating an analogy between Android phones and iPhones that parallels a comparison between manual and automatic transmissions. **<caveat>**I have an Android phone.**</caveat>** Android, like a manual transmission, gives you greater choice in how to operate the phone/device. For the performance-minded and those that like to customize their experience, Android would be preferred. iPhone OTOH, simply works. It does the job and stays out of your way, just like an automatic transmission.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Hey Gary, What's your phone model? I am considering a switch to Android. Also, what cell phone provider are you with? Thank you.

                                    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                      I don't think the Android is any more hackable than an iPhone. iPhone users may swear otherwise, but people who've used both feel they are pretty much the same when it comes to stability, security, etc.

                                      Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      Well - Android allows you to install pretty much anything you want. iOS doesn't (unless you are using it in development mode). That's a fair discrepancy.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Hey Gary, What's your phone model? I am considering a switch to Android. Also, what cell phone provider are you with? Thank you.

                                        Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        I've got a Samsung S5 which is pretty old. They're up to an S8 model now, I believe. My provider is Verizon, because their coverage is the best here in Ohio, plus my employer gets me a 15% discount on my plan. Also noteworthy is that Verizon does a good job of supporting older phones. I'm still getting system updates periodically for the S5.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          Well - Android allows you to install pretty much anything you want. iOS doesn't (unless you are using it in development mode). That's a fair discrepancy.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          That's a fair point. I was more thinking of a non-technical person buying an Android/iPhone.

                                          Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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