Manual transmission or automatic transmission?
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That's a helicopter! You are really in the wrong seat!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Finally somebody noticed that. :-) A parking brake with a throttle grip! And it's on the left side of the seat! :-)
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Just like the answer to most questions on here, it all depends. Manual transmission is like Assembly language. You have the power and control, but it is more work. That being said, want go off road? Manual. Towing? Manual. My last two Chrysler products have what they called 'AutoStick'. Basically I can manually change the gears if I want to or I can just put it in drive and go. Haven't towed anything or gone off road with 'Autostick' so I can't tell if it is the same or different from a manual.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
As a youngster I would not have contemplated driving an automatic. Now, who can be bothered? I just want to get from A to B as quickly and comfortably as possible.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
It sounds like you are creating an analogy between Android phones and iPhones that parallels a comparison between manual and automatic transmissions.
**<caveat>**I have an Android phone.**</caveat>**Android, like a manual transmission, gives you greater choice in how to operate the phone/device. For the performance-minded and those that like to customize their experience, Android would be preferred. iPhone OTOH, simply works. It does the job and stays out of your way, just like an automatic transmission.Software Zen:
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He probably means manual is like an Android (closer to the metal) while the automatic is like an iOS phone (easier to use, hides underlying design from the end user).
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Nish, you're so smart. :-D
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Nish, you're so smart. :-D
That sounds suspiciously like an underhanded compliment. :rolleyes:
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It's open to development, is easily hacked and is often found in low quality hardware? You've lost me...
cheers Chris Maunder
I don't think the Android is any more hackable than an iPhone. iPhone users may swear otherwise, but people who've used both feel they are pretty much the same when it comes to stability, security, etc.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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It sounds like you are creating an analogy between Android phones and iPhones that parallels a comparison between manual and automatic transmissions.
**<caveat>**I have an Android phone.**</caveat>**Android, like a manual transmission, gives you greater choice in how to operate the phone/device. For the performance-minded and those that like to customize their experience, Android would be preferred. iPhone OTOH, simply works. It does the job and stays out of your way, just like an automatic transmission.Software Zen:
delete this;Hey Gary, What's your phone model? I am considering a switch to Android. Also, what cell phone provider are you with? Thank you.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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I don't think the Android is any more hackable than an iPhone. iPhone users may swear otherwise, but people who've used both feel they are pretty much the same when it comes to stability, security, etc.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Well - Android allows you to install pretty much anything you want. iOS doesn't (unless you are using it in development mode). That's a fair discrepancy.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Hey Gary, What's your phone model? I am considering a switch to Android. Also, what cell phone provider are you with? Thank you.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
I've got a Samsung S5 which is pretty old. They're up to an S8 model now, I believe. My provider is Verizon, because their coverage is the best here in Ohio, plus my employer gets me a 15% discount on my plan. Also noteworthy is that Verizon does a good job of supporting older phones. I'm still getting system updates periodically for the S5.
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Well - Android allows you to install pretty much anything you want. iOS doesn't (unless you are using it in development mode). That's a fair discrepancy.
cheers Chris Maunder
That's a fair point. I was more thinking of a non-technical person buying an Android/iPhone.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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I've got a Samsung S5 which is pretty old. They're up to an S8 model now, I believe. My provider is Verizon, because their coverage is the best here in Ohio, plus my employer gets me a 15% discount on my plan. Also noteworthy is that Verizon does a good job of supporting older phones. I'm still getting system updates periodically for the S5.
Software Zen:
delete this;Thanks Gary.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
I'm a lazy bastard so I own an automatic but I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you. Changing to sports mode and manually selecting a gear just isn't the same.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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That's a helicopter! You are really in the wrong seat!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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@John-Simmons-outlaw-programmer : I know you are a big Mustang guy, do you drive a stick-shift or an automatic? If the latter does it have those optional paddle shifters?
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Manual. However, the new 10-speed automatics coming out have proven to be as good, if not better, than a manual on road courses. The down side is that automatic transmission raises the cost of the car by at least a few thousand dollars, so they're more expensive than their manual trans counterparts. Paddle shifters are gay.
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Thanks Gary.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
Please note that I'm not a serious phone user. I use it to make calls (imagine that), text and a couple sorts of IM, and Facebook. No games, music, video, etc. Given that, I'm easy to please in the phone market and I'm not terribly discriminating. About my only criteria when I bought the S5 was I wanted Android and I needed a phone that was at least water-resistant, since I carry it when I bike and occasionally when I run.
Software Zen:
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If you are not going to decide when to change gears you might as well take the train. :-D (Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
(Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
I've been driving a manual long enough that, at any time, if you ask me what gear I'm in I may not consciously know -- I'm in whatever gear is required for the situation. I have to put my hand on the shifter to figure it out. With enough practice, manuals things become automatic. :laugh:
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
(Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
I've been driving a manual long enough that, at any time, if you ask me what gear I'm in I may not consciously know -- I'm in whatever gear is required for the situation. I have to put my hand on the shifter to figure it out. With enough practice, manuals things become automatic. :laugh:
I used to drive a Series IIA Land Rover - if you had that in the wrong gear your ears would bleed :laugh:
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I'm a lazy bastard so I own an automatic but I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you. Changing to sports mode and manually selecting a gear just isn't the same.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you
Our winter weather is nasty here in Ohio, U.S. From November through March it's an ever-varying parade of rain, sleet, freezing rain, snow of various sorts, and ice. I've never felt safe driving an automatic in those conditions. They never shift when you expect them to and they don't do engine braking worth a damn. That's why my most recent car purchase was a front-wheel drive Honda Civic with a 5-speed manual transmission.
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My first car, an early 60's hilman I needed to double clutch particularly changing down - didn't know that that car was so far ahead of it's time. These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true. For ordinary driving particularly commuting (i.e. traffic jams) auto really is better - no longer young so way past the need to drop wheelspins at every traffic light. For driving between cities auto/manual same-o same-o (but consider for very long drives usually cruise control integrates better with auto). One stage had 15 cars - mostly auto but had one well set up older manual (and well tuned muscle memory to suit) in which I'd beat any auto and most motorbikes off the line for the first km or so without even thinking about it (most fun was leaving idiots in brand new bmw's behind that tried to pass before lanes merged.) But at the time though most favourite when running local was a 50cc scooter (they called "auto" but in fact some sort of clv set up), could park it anywhere, bypass most jams, and it ran for a fortnight on half a gallon of gas. Top speed 50km/h (30 mph) - could do 60 down hill - fast enough on little wheels.
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These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true.
While I broadly agree with you, the auto's still need repairs more often than manuals. A manual g/box can easily do 500000km while the auto one has to be opened up to replace the clutch-packs at 250000km-300000km. The situation is a lot better than it used to be. In the past you'd need to replace clutch packs in an auto every 100000km-140000km, but it's hard to beat the simplicity of the manual g/box design with its external clutch (which gets replaced independently of the g/box).