Manual transmission or automatic transmission?
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
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I'm a lazy bastard so I own an automatic but I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you. Changing to sports mode and manually selecting a gear just isn't the same.
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@John-Simmons-outlaw-programmer : I know you are a big Mustang guy, do you drive a stick-shift or an automatic? If the latter does it have those optional paddle shifters?
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Manual. However, the new 10-speed automatics coming out have proven to be as good, if not better, than a manual on road courses. The down side is that automatic transmission raises the cost of the car by at least a few thousand dollars, so they're more expensive than their manual trans counterparts. Paddle shifters are gay.
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If you are not going to decide when to change gears you might as well take the train. :-D (Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
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(Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
I've been driving a manual long enough that, at any time, if you ask me what gear I'm in I may not consciously know -- I'm in whatever gear is required for the situation. I have to put my hand on the shifter to figure it out. With enough practice, manuals things become automatic. :laugh:
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
(Actually - on a semi serious note - having to change gears does help keep the brain engaged which is a helpful thing for a driver)
I've been driving a manual long enough that, at any time, if you ask me what gear I'm in I may not consciously know -- I'm in whatever gear is required for the situation. I have to put my hand on the shifter to figure it out. With enough practice, manuals things become automatic. :laugh:
I used to drive a Series IIA Land Rover - if you had that in the wrong gear your ears would bleed :laugh:
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I'm a lazy bastard so I own an automatic but I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you. Changing to sports mode and manually selecting a gear just isn't the same.
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I love driving and miss the control a manual gearbox give you
Our winter weather is nasty here in Ohio, U.S. From November through March it's an ever-varying parade of rain, sleet, freezing rain, snow of various sorts, and ice. I've never felt safe driving an automatic in those conditions. They never shift when you expect them to and they don't do engine braking worth a damn. That's why my most recent car purchase was a front-wheel drive Honda Civic with a 5-speed manual transmission.
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My first car, an early 60's hilman I needed to double clutch particularly changing down - didn't know that that car was so far ahead of it's time. These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true. For ordinary driving particularly commuting (i.e. traffic jams) auto really is better - no longer young so way past the need to drop wheelspins at every traffic light. For driving between cities auto/manual same-o same-o (but consider for very long drives usually cruise control integrates better with auto). One stage had 15 cars - mostly auto but had one well set up older manual (and well tuned muscle memory to suit) in which I'd beat any auto and most motorbikes off the line for the first km or so without even thinking about it (most fun was leaving idiots in brand new bmw's behind that tried to pass before lanes merged.) But at the time though most favourite when running local was a 50cc scooter (they called "auto" but in fact some sort of clv set up), could park it anywhere, bypass most jams, and it ran for a fortnight on half a gallon of gas. Top speed 50km/h (30 mph) - could do 60 down hill - fast enough on little wheels.
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These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true.
While I broadly agree with you, the auto's still need repairs more often than manuals. A manual g/box can easily do 500000km while the auto one has to be opened up to replace the clutch-packs at 250000km-300000km. The situation is a lot better than it used to be. In the past you'd need to replace clutch packs in an auto every 100000km-140000km, but it's hard to beat the simplicity of the manual g/box design with its external clutch (which gets replaced independently of the g/box).
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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I used to drive a Series IIA Land Rover - if you had that in the wrong gear your ears would bleed :laugh:
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
I drove automatics for many years while the family was growing up. Now that the kids have flown, I'm back to manual - just for the enjoyment factor. Wife likes it too (though it took some learning there).
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These days all the things that were wrong with automatics (used more gas, needed repair more often, costlier) are no longer true.
While I broadly agree with you, the auto's still need repairs more often than manuals. A manual g/box can easily do 500000km while the auto one has to be opened up to replace the clutch-packs at 250000km-300000km. The situation is a lot better than it used to be. In the past you'd need to replace clutch packs in an auto every 100000km-140000km, but it's hard to beat the simplicity of the manual g/box design with its external clutch (which gets replaced independently of the g/box).
I had to replace the clutch on my 2001 Golf after 300k miles. From what I've seen, the "just as good" amounts to only getting 90% - 94% of the mileage of a manual, when you can find an equivalent car.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Manual trannies are fun, whereas auto trannies are dull and efficient - comparable to driving a Ferrari or a Yugo...
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In the US, very few (I'd guess less than 5%) drivers can drive a stick-shift (manual) car.
Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com
im here in the us and drive one every day :cool:
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Manual, but only if you're willing to heel toe shift.
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
Both of my vehicles have manual. More fun to drive. I feel like manual gives me better control when there's a snowstorm or ice. If I bought a new vehicle today, though, I'd probably go automatic. Shifting's become tiresome as I get older, and I'm mostly in city traffic any more. My vehicles are 2002 models, so I haven't looked in a long time. But, it seems like last time I looked, it was actually something I had to order special. I guess automatics have become so reliable and perform so well, there's not really a reason to go manual any more. That being said, I think having the skill is useful. Never know when you'll be somewhere that you need to drive a stick.
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Manual. However, the new 10-speed automatics coming out have proven to be as good, if not better, than a manual on road courses. The down side is that automatic transmission raises the cost of the car by at least a few thousand dollars, so they're more expensive than their manual trans counterparts. Paddle shifters are gay.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Conversely, finding a used car with a manual will most likely drop the cost considerably. My sister purchased a 1 yr old S10 Blazer for 11K USD while the automatics were costing 20+. Similar ability to driving with a carburetor on a well used car, you know the kind where you don't need an alarm because it takes a special combination of actions to start it and warm it up. Bonus if you can get both a carb & a stick.
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I used to drive a Series IIA Land Rover - if you had that in the wrong gear your ears would bleed :laugh:
I still drive a (slightly more modern) landy. Things haven't improved hugely... :laugh:
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From my point of view manual transmission is more like an android phone. What do you think?
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.