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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Trump pledges swift Harvey aid, says effort will be unimpeded by threatened government shutdown - Chicago Tribune[^] So will he fire the Secretary of State for Not Flooding Texas or build a wall round the state and get the water to pay for it? :laugh:

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    Overall I don't care about Trump one way or the other in this case. I've got friends who live South West of Houston in League City. Along with others in south Texas. Fortunately they have all checked in and seem to be okay. I had to read the article because I thought one party or the other was threatening a government shutdown. Turns out he is the one threatening a partial shutdown if he doesn't get the wall money. :sigh: My beef is with people like Cruz and other politicians who didn't support Sandy relief for whatever their reason du jour happened to be. Those who are now saying they need money so badly to help the devastated areas. :mad: I hope the people down there get the relief they need and I hope they remember their politicians are not the reason they received assistance. It is the rest of the politicians who put aside their petty bickering to help others. That said, I realize no politician at that level has ever done anything decent for another human being without expecting something in return. Just look at Hiram Johnson in the late 20s sponsoring flood relief in Alabama with the expectation of votes to get the Hoover Dam built.

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      Overall I don't care about Trump one way or the other in this case. I've got friends who live South West of Houston in League City. Along with others in south Texas. Fortunately they have all checked in and seem to be okay. I had to read the article because I thought one party or the other was threatening a government shutdown. Turns out he is the one threatening a partial shutdown if he doesn't get the wall money. :sigh: My beef is with people like Cruz and other politicians who didn't support Sandy relief for whatever their reason du jour happened to be. Those who are now saying they need money so badly to help the devastated areas. :mad: I hope the people down there get the relief they need and I hope they remember their politicians are not the reason they received assistance. It is the rest of the politicians who put aside their petty bickering to help others. That said, I realize no politician at that level has ever done anything decent for another human being without expecting something in return. Just look at Hiram Johnson in the late 20s sponsoring flood relief in Alabama with the expectation of votes to get the Hoover Dam built.

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      RJOberg wrote:

      My beef is with people like Cruz and other politicians who didn't support Sandy relief for whatever their reason du jour happened to be.

      If I recall many of the pols who did not support the Sandy relief bill said they did so due to the huge amounts of non-relief related special interest spending included. The question is: Does the Harvey relief bill also include so much pork? Disclaimer: Not supporting Cruz or any pol. They're all pretty much scum.

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        RJOberg wrote:

        My beef is with people like Cruz and other politicians who didn't support Sandy relief for whatever their reason du jour happened to be.

        If I recall many of the pols who did not support the Sandy relief bill said they did so due to the huge amounts of non-relief related special interest spending included. The question is: Does the Harvey relief bill also include so much pork? Disclaimer: Not supporting Cruz or any pol. They're all pretty much scum.

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        A lot of politicians claimed one reason or another to not support it. I didn't read the bill and even if I had, I'm not sure that I would grasp all the nuances. Given their history though, I doubt most of the detractors read it either. I'm not sure how much true pork was in there and how much was implied by opponents. If I recall that was around the time where cooperation was pretty non-existent. Plenty of "We'll stop Obama if it's the last thing we do!" complete with villain mustache curl. Not that it is any different now, just a different name. DC has always been a "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" sort of town. Now it just seems that everyone wants to be scratched and no one wants to do the scratching.

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          A lot of politicians claimed one reason or another to not support it. I didn't read the bill and even if I had, I'm not sure that I would grasp all the nuances. Given their history though, I doubt most of the detractors read it either. I'm not sure how much true pork was in there and how much was implied by opponents. If I recall that was around the time where cooperation was pretty non-existent. Plenty of "We'll stop Obama if it's the last thing we do!" complete with villain mustache curl. Not that it is any different now, just a different name. DC has always been a "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" sort of town. Now it just seems that everyone wants to be scratched and no one wants to do the scratching.

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          Hurricane Harvey – GOP Non-Hypocrisy | National Review[^] Biased I'm sure. But worth a short read nonetheless.

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            Hurricane Harvey – GOP Non-Hypocrisy | National Review[^] Biased I'm sure. But worth a short read nonetheless.

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            Mike Mullikin wrote:

            Biased I'm sure.

            The National Review tends to be but it is getting harder to find unbiased reporting anymore. NY Daily News is a gossip rag that delights in heckling everyone and anyone. Bloomberg... is anyone surprised? The complaint about the majority of the funds not being spent until 2015 makes sense given that they are predicting years of cleanup and repair effort for this one. There is certainly some scratch my back going on in there too. Though complaining about New England fisheries having taken damage during a storm that close makes me sigh. The Alaska bit makes me shake my head but yes, some pork. 25% of the funds for any state that had declared an emergency in the past two years sounds a little suspect but within the realm of possibility.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Trump pledges swift Harvey aid, says effort will be unimpeded by threatened government shutdown - Chicago Tribune[^] So will he fire the Secretary of State for Not Flooding Texas or build a wall round the state and get the water to pay for it? :laugh:

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              And his timing[^] is as impeccable as ever.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                And his timing[^] is as impeccable as ever.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                If this presidency was a sitcom, no one would believe it...

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  If this presidency was a sitcom, no one would believe it...

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                  The sitcom is called "House of Tards"

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                    And his timing[^] is as impeccable as ever.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    Quote fro article:

                    "We will rebuild things that should not be rebuilt and ... in ways that are less safe and secure than they should be," Eli Lehrer, president of the free-market think tank R Street Institute in Washington, told Business Insider.

                    Right. Because only the federal government knows how to build things to be flood proof. :rolleyes:

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                      Surely there is some small avenue of your life that is more interesting than Donald Trump... :rolleyes:

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                      Here in the UK, we've got the BBC and various other "news" outlets who are intent on disparaging anything they don't agree with (Trump, Brexit, etc).. it's almost like there's no other news in the world these days (European migrant crisis, global terrorism, runaway house prices, education and health systems creaking, etc, etc..).. It's all "Trump this" and "Brexit that".. :doh: X|

                      Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                        Here in the UK, we've got the BBC and various other "news" outlets who are intent on disparaging anything they don't agree with (Trump, Brexit, etc).. it's almost like there's no other news in the world these days (European migrant crisis, global terrorism, runaway house prices, education and health systems creaking, etc, etc..).. It's all "Trump this" and "Brexit that".. :doh: X|

                        Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                        Its the same here. We have a massive natural disaster going on (as I type) in Texas and the media, while covering the flooding, still finds time to worry about what president Trump is doing minute to minute and what shoes the first lady wore while walking from the White House to an Air Force chopper. It has gone beyond pathetic.

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                          Quote fro article:

                          "We will rebuild things that should not be rebuilt and ... in ways that are less safe and secure than they should be," Eli Lehrer, president of the free-market think tank R Street Institute in Washington, told Business Insider.

                          Right. Because only the federal government knows how to build things to be flood proof. :rolleyes:

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                          No they don't, and that's kind of the point of the executive order[^] that was reversed. It changed the regulation over WHERE they were allowed to build. There's no point in reversing that order unless 1. You make a point in reversing everything Obama did. B. You're a luddite. III. Well, it's Trump, what do you expect?

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Trump pledges swift Harvey aid, says effort will be unimpeded by threatened government shutdown - Chicago Tribune[^] So will he fire the Secretary of State for Not Flooding Texas or build a wall round the state and get the water to pay for it? :laugh:

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                            I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              No they don't, and that's kind of the point of the executive order[^] that was reversed. It changed the regulation over WHERE they were allowed to build. There's no point in reversing that order unless 1. You make a point in reversing everything Obama did. B. You're a luddite. III. Well, it's Trump, what do you expect?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                              Don't misunderstand - I agree with the substance of the executive order. I've said the same thing after any number of hurricanes. Don't rebuild the same old crap. Prepare for the next hurricane. I just think that is common sense and shouldn't require an executive order. As for Trump cancelling this executive order... I suspect it was mostly #1 with a touch of AGW denial.

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                :thumbsup:

                                When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others. Same thing when you are stupid.

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                                  Don't misunderstand - I agree with the substance of the executive order. I've said the same thing after any number of hurricanes. Don't rebuild the same old crap. Prepare for the next hurricane. I just think that is common sense and shouldn't require an executive order. As for Trump cancelling this executive order... I suspect it was mostly #1 with a touch of AGW denial.

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                                  Agreed, but you need to keep in mind that common sense isn't common.

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                                    Agreed, but you need to keep in mind that common sense isn't common.

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                    Sadly true. :|

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                                      It's pointing and laughing at America and their stupid politics, not getting worked up about it.

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        :thumbsup:

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I don't think I've ever seen so many butt-hurt f*ckin foreigners over one of our presidential elections. Please get-the-f*ck over it already.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          Why do you even care what foreigners say? Let people express their opinion. If you don't like it, just print it, roll it tight and insert it where the sun never shines.

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