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Do you support the concept of revenge hacking?

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    Lost User
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    Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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      Slacker007
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      I do not support the concept of hacking, no matter the flavor. I am on the fence when it comes to hacking for national security reasons, for obvious reasons. Edit: I feel the more types of hacking we allow, the more it will become mainstream, then it will become industry standard, and the next thing you know recruiters will be searching openly on LinkedIn for hackers.

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        I do not support the concept of hacking, no matter the flavor. I am on the fence when it comes to hacking for national security reasons, for obvious reasons. Edit: I feel the more types of hacking we allow, the more it will become mainstream, then it will become industry standard, and the next thing you know recruiters will be searching openly on LinkedIn for hackers.

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        Nathan Minier
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        They already do; they just go by the moniker "Penetration Testers".

        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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          They already do; they just go by the moniker "Penetration Testers".

          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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          Nathan Minier wrote:

          They already do; they just go by the moniker "Penetration Testers".

          I believe you accidentally looked up a bridal registry . . .

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          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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            Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Alas, I do something akin to it for certain types of spammers - made a tool to send out mail via SMTP. Just tell it how many time to repeat. Also, will spoof source address with random string addresses, with the option to make them all major domains (like gmail.com, yahoo.com, etc.) so they're not so easily blocked. And, for good measure, to add variations to the subject and body to further ward off the filters for a while. Use:   to get spammers to stop spamming me. I actually get little spam, anyway, as I've too many email addresses via forwards. The Mrs., however, has needed this aggressive defense on a number of occasions.

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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              OriginalGriff
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              It's a bit like breaking into a suspected thieves house to nick back the stuff you think he stole, and trashing his living room on your way out. It's vigilantism to my mind.

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                Nathan Minier wrote:

                They already do; they just go by the moniker "Penetration Testers".

                I believe you accidentally looked up a bridal registry . . .

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Nathan Minier
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                I've always thought it sounded more like a bad porno name.

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                  They already do; they just go by the moniker "Penetration Testers".

                  "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                  You make a good point.

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                    Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                    Tim Carmichael
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                    No, and calling it 'white hat' doesn't change what it is... From the article, they 'suspected' the people were guilty, but there was no proof, so they used illegal methods to get the proof. And, if we suspect the bank is using underhanded tactics, can we 'hack' the bank to read their correspondence in an attempt to prove our suspicions?

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                      Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                      kmoorevs
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                      According to the article, 'It was effective'. I don't see anything wrong with it...it'd be better if there was some personal pain and suffering involved for the criminals. :) Honeypots are effective as well. I have a FTP server with a read-only FTP account of Administrator and a password of Admin. Dictionary attacks that used to last for an hour are a thing of the past. :laugh:

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                        Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        Nathan Minier
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                        I think a logic bomb would be a much better method of dealing with hackers, perhaps initiated by accessing data from an unauthorized system. That would be more like the ink packs that banks will put in with the cash. If someone steals data which proceeds to destroy their system, I'm fine with that.

                        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                          Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

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                            Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            kmoorevs
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                            Gary Wheeler wrote:

                            Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies

                            :thumbsup: I like this thinking!...sends a clear message...better than just a finger or two! Hope you have a speedy recovery with yours! :)

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              Lost User
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                              My upvote for you!

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies

                                :thumbsup: I like this thinking!...sends a clear message...better than just a finger or two! Hope you have a speedy recovery with yours! :)

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                I wholeheartedly agree with you! :)

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

                                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  R Erasmus
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                                  No, hacking is wrong... plain and simple. (message for those whom I'm wronged) As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

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                                    No, hacking is wrong... plain and simple. (message for those whom I'm wronged) As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

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                                    R. Erasmus wrote:

                                    As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

                                    I do not think hackers are stopping politicians or corporations........ Hacking is bad in any form. The above argument from Mr/Ms Erasmus is not acceptable. Just a method to try and justify it. Hackers are a nasty bug in Internet with is slowly being killed by this infection.

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                                      Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                                      jRaskell1
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                                      I'd much rather see all that effort go into improving security against hacking, or minimizing the damage caused by successful hacks.

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                                        My upvote for you!

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        Thank you sir!

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                                          Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                                          Fabio Franco
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                                          Absolutely! However, as anything, the concept can be abused and it could be used recklessly ending up on causing damage to people that has nothing to do with it.

                                          To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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