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Do you support the concept of revenge hacking?

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    Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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    kmoorevs
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    According to the article, 'It was effective'. I don't see anything wrong with it...it'd be better if there was some personal pain and suffering involved for the criminals. :) Honeypots are effective as well. I have a FTP server with a read-only FTP account of Administrator and a password of Admin. Dictionary attacks that used to last for an hour are a thing of the past. :laugh:

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      Nathan Minier
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      I think a logic bomb would be a much better method of dealing with hackers, perhaps initiated by accessing data from an unauthorized system. That would be more like the ink packs that banks will put in with the cash. If someone steals data which proceeds to destroy their system, I'm fine with that.

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        Gary Wheeler
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        Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

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          Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

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          kmoorevs
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          Gary Wheeler wrote:

          Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies

          :thumbsup: I like this thinking!...sends a clear message...better than just a finger or two! Hope you have a speedy recovery with yours! :)

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            Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies at one of the cervical vertebrae using a large axe. The detached heads should then be mounted on pikes outside the castle walls as a warning to others.

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            Lost User
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            My upvote for you!

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              Gary Wheeler wrote:

              Yes, if it involves separating the hackers' heads from their bodies

              :thumbsup: I like this thinking!...sends a clear message...better than just a finger or two! Hope you have a speedy recovery with yours! :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              Lost User
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              I wholeheartedly agree with you! :)

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                Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                R Erasmus
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                No, hacking is wrong... plain and simple. (message for those whom I'm wronged) As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

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                  No, hacking is wrong... plain and simple. (message for those whom I'm wronged) As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

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                  Member 11261991
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                  R. Erasmus wrote:

                  As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

                  I do not think hackers are stopping politicians or corporations........ Hacking is bad in any form. The above argument from Mr/Ms Erasmus is not acceptable. Just a method to try and justify it. Hackers are a nasty bug in Internet with is slowly being killed by this infection.

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                    jRaskell1
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                    I'd much rather see all that effort go into improving security against hacking, or minimizing the damage caused by successful hacks.

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                    • L Lost User

                      My upvote for you!

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Thank you sir!

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                        Fabio Franco
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                        Absolutely! However, as anything, the concept can be abused and it could be used recklessly ending up on causing damage to people that has nothing to do with it.

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                          Tomz_KV
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                          Acceptable. This will create a good question for the law enforcement. Who are the hackers to catch?

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                            Slow Eddie
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                            Yes. And to those that say "All hacking is Wrong!", wake up and smell the criminal in your house. If someone was holding a gun on you or a loved one, with intent to kill, and if you had the opportunity to kill that criminal before he could pull the trigger, would you hesitate for one instant? Every individual has the right to self defense, to defend themselves defend themselves and their property. The only sane individual against "hacking back" is most likely to be someone that engages in hacking others to steal from them.:mad: Hackers that get hacked themselves have no right to complain.

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                              R. Erasmus wrote:

                              As a side note, most definitely support it. If it wasn't for hackers politicians and large corporations will be left to their own corrupt devices, and we will be pulling at the shorted end. (already very much like that, but gives them something to think about)

                              I do not think hackers are stopping politicians or corporations........ Hacking is bad in any form. The above argument from Mr/Ms Erasmus is not acceptable. Just a method to try and justify it. Hackers are a nasty bug in Internet with is slowly being killed by this infection.

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                              R Erasmus
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                              "I do not think hackers are stopping politicians or corporations........" Maybe not yet... but it is definitely exposing some of them. In my country at least. And if this corruption keeps on getting exposed and this happens more frequently, people are going to think twice before going down that road.

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                It's a bit like breaking into a suspected thieves house to nick back the stuff you think he stole, and trashing his living room on your way out. It's vigilantism to my mind.

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                                Charles Programmer
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                                I say its like kicking the stuffing out of a bully. One doesn't stop a bully by running to mommy.

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                                  Charles Programmer
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                                  Back when I had winXP I kept a copy of ping.exe from win95 on it, so that I could send ping of death packets to the jerks.

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                                    I'd much rather see all that effort go into improving security against hacking, or minimizing the damage caused by successful hacks.

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                                    Charles Programmer
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                                    So what are you supposed to do when you're watching them try to hack in, right now? You have to have some way to stop them. I must say though, that the point made above about corrupt corps and such, is a very persuasive argument for hacking, which I really do agree with.

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                                      Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                                      AnotherKen
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                                      History has shown that revenge never ends well for anyone. With hacking being a crime in most places even leading to the death of hackers when they are caught by other citizens, it is not the safest thing to do in the first place. Revenge hacking ,therefore, is for fools (in my not so humble opinion.)

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                                        History has shown that revenge never ends well for anyone. With hacking being a crime in most places even leading to the death of hackers when they are caught by other citizens, it is not the safest thing to do in the first place. Revenge hacking ,therefore, is for fools (in my not so humble opinion.)

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                                        Lost User
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                                        The problem as I see it, is that many hackers hide in foreign countries, like Russia, where they are beyond the reach of our law enforcement agencies. Should we just sit passively by and let these miscreants spread their misery unpunished because they are physically out of reach? If we do, then we are indeed fools! In such cases revenge hacking is justified and a proper course of action.

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                                          Inside the Shadowy World of Revenge Hackers[^]

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                                          jschell
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                                          Hmmm.... "“Given that most attacks do not come straight from the attackers’ computers, rather they are routed through systems that have been compromised along the way, a hack back could do damage to innocent systems without ever reaching the bad guys,” Hilbert said. Eventually, all five companies gave up out of fear of getting caught, Hilbert added." So the argument is that a company, whose security is so lax that they are being used as a proxy, is untouchable? Not sure I really agree with that. As a moral position (I understand the legal one.) Too many places I have been where when I say "that isn't safe" the response is "we don't have time for that". One need only look to Equifax for a breach via a known exploit.

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