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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      I am so glad I write in C still. I can remain blissfully ignorant of all this latest must have technology. Imagine the time spent learning COM, all wasted. Java too, gone by the wayside. Good old C, it lasts forever! :)

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        megaadam
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        It adds a lot of cruft. Complicates server deployment. Or at least: that is how it feels.

        ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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          I am so glad I write in C still. I can remain blissfully ignorant of all this latest must have technology. Imagine the time spent learning COM, all wasted. Java too, gone by the wayside. Good old C, it lasts forever! :)

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          Me thinks C++ try you should. I never looked back.

          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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            I am so glad I write in C still. I can remain blissfully ignorant of all this latest must have technology. Imagine the time spent learning COM, all wasted. Java too, gone by the wayside. Good old C, it lasts forever! :)

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            C IS good, indeed... Maybe C++ a bit better... But there are lines of development you can not use them... Not without spitting blood at least...

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              Me thinks C++ try you should. I never looked back.

              ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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              Munchies_Matt
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              I use C++ in MFC for writing test apps and the odd cpl applet, but so much of what I do is process based that C really is the best language.

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                It adds a lot of cruft. Complicates server deployment. Or at least: that is how it feels.

                ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                More complicated. But can be automated... You may be interested in my article about .NET Core (the second one)...

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  C IS good, indeed... Maybe C++ a bit better... But there are lines of development you can not use them... Not without spitting blood at least...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Of course, fortunately I dont go anywhere near those lines of development! :)

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                    Of course, fortunately I dont go anywhere near those lines of development! :)

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                    Lucky you! :laugh:

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      3. Does not write .NET apps but uses [insert your favorite language] for cross platform applications For me, it is C++ with cross platform frameworks like Qt and C, C++, and Perl for console applications.

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                        3. Does not write .NET apps but uses [insert your favorite language] for cross platform applications For me, it is C++ with cross platform frameworks like Qt and C, C++, and Perl for console applications.

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                        It is actually 2. - you consider your current cross platform solution better (or good enough)...

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                          Lucky you! :laugh:

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Benefits of working in the kernel, it hasnt really changed in decades, seriously.

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            More complicated. But can be automated... You may be interested in my article about .NET Core (the second one)...

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            I was thinking in terms of updating .NET itself, when there are dependencies between all the applications and the core. Maybe you cover that too, but I saw no link Köszi :)

                            ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                              It is actually 2. - you consider your current cross platform solution better (or good enough)...

                              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                              Jochen Arndt
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                              I think it would be a good choice if I would write .NET apps (and have not used many methods that are not supported by .NET core).

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                                I was thinking in terms of updating .NET itself, when there are dependencies between all the applications and the core. Maybe you cover that too, but I saw no link Köszi :)

                                ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                It does not cover .NET Core updates, as I do not consider it as a developer problem. It is about hosting the very same compilation on different platforms... ASP.NET Core: compile once, host everywhere[^]

                                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                  I am so glad I write in C still. I can remain blissfully ignorant of all this latest must have technology. Imagine the time spent learning COM, all wasted. Java too, gone by the wayside. Good old C, it lasts forever! :)

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                                  Daniel Pfeffer
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                                  [Poem - Write in C](http://www.poppyfields.net/filks/00259.html) :)

                                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    [Poem - Write in C](http://www.poppyfields.net/filks/00259.html) :)

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    :)

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                                      [Poem - Write in C](http://www.poppyfields.net/filks/00259.html) :)

                                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      peterkmx
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                                      or even better ... with music :-D : [htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1fISh-pag](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1fISh-pag)

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                        Mycroft Holmes
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                                        No requirement, a purely windows shop so "everywhere" is .Net :-D

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          It seems only about 15% of us consider .NET Core as platform for development, the question is why? 1. Either no interest in multiplatform 2. Or does not consider .NET Core as a good choice for that Any opinions?

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                          I like .NET and I'm excited about .NET Core although I haven't used it for a production app as yet. Having said that, up until recently there was a lot of stuff missing. Given than Java is more mature and has better performance, there's always the question in the back of my mind "why don't I just do this in Java?".. and that's the first hurdle Microsoft is going to have with developers when it comes to cross platform web development. Personally I'll stick with it, but I'll probably need to learn Java as well just to hedge my bets on where future opportunities are going to be.

                                          Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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