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  • F Foothill

    American politics has devolved into a spectator sport. The sad part is that the outcome of the match determines the fate of over 300 million souls.

    if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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    Le centriste
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    Foothill wrote:

    300 million souls

    Much, much more than that.

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      Le centriste wrote:

      I think it creeped into amateurs competitions also, at some level. Like Olympics.

      That was back in '84 when the Yanks organised for NBA players to be eligible.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      DRHuff
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      That must have been when it started. The East German Womens swim team just looked and sounded like a bunch of men by accident in the 60s and 70s.

      I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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        Le centriste wrote:

        I think it creeped into amateurs competitions also, at some level. Like Olympics.

        That was back in '84 when the Yanks organised for NBA players to be eligible.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

        There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Brazilian police arrest Olympics chief in bribery investigation[^]

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          arranged $2m bribe to win games for Rio

          Oops. Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days? If it's not the competitors cheating drug tests, it's the organisers and back handers. :sigh:

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          The Olympics (bidding) have never been corruption free, in the 90's I had a contract to track which committee member had received which bribe present just so they did not double dip into the trough. I like to think the teams are honest (or reasonably so) but the organisations behind them are just after the money, we recently had a cricket player revolt against their organisers, just to pick one.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            That must have been when it started. The East German Womens swim team just looked and sounded like a bunch of men by accident in the 60s and 70s.

            I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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            DRHuff wrote:

            That must have been when it started. The East German Womens swim team just looked and sounded like a bunch of men by accident in the 60s and 70s.

            Along with the Russian weightlifters and others, they were maintained by the state to show their superiority in a sport that wasn't mainstream or in any way a professional money making sport. Unless I can't remember a league for swimming back in the 70's and 80's. The basketball was professional and America hated losing to Russian and European teams of amateurs so pushed through allowing their professionals to play. Doesn't happen in Soccer but then your team wouldn't win if professionals were allowed.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

              There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              SerenityNowDev wrote:

              As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

              Thought it was one of the US Olympics but didn't check. In what sports. From what I remember the teams that won were Communist and/or European and the state paid for the athletes but non played in any professional leagues.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                SerenityNowDev wrote:

                As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

                Thought it was one of the US Olympics but didn't check. In what sports. From what I remember the teams that won were Communist and/or European and the state paid for the athletes but non played in any professional leagues.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  SerenityNowDev wrote:

                  As I recall, other countries allowed their pro sports players to participate long before the US did. And it was in 1992.

                  Thought it was one of the US Olympics but didn't check. In what sports. From what I remember the teams that won were Communist and/or European and the state paid for the athletes but non played in any professional leagues.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  Has Anyone Seen Mike Hunt wrote:

                  In what sports. From what I remember the teams that won were Communist and/or European and the state paid for the athletes but non played in any professional leagues.

                  Ya, it looks like I might be wrong, at least according to wiki. I seem to recall a video explaining that the Dream Team of the USA basketball really was not that big of a deal because the other countries had been using pro athletes for a long time. It looks like that video may have been wrong.

                  There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Brent Jenkins wrote:

                    Agreed, at least in professional and semi-professional sports..

                    I think it creeped into amateurs competitions also, at some level. Like Olympics.

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                    Yeah, thankfully not in anything that I do (although I don't compete either, I just do it for fun) :)

                    Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                    • L Le centriste

                      Foothill wrote:

                      300 million souls

                      Much, much more than that.

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                      No. The rest of them just don't have a soul!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Brazilian police arrest Olympics chief in bribery investigation[^]

                        Quote:

                        arranged $2m bribe to win games for Rio

                        Oops. Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days? If it's not the competitors cheating drug tests, it's the organisers and back handers. :sigh:

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                        jschell
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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days?

                        These days? People have always been seeking advantages.

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                        • L Le centriste

                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days?

                          It's not about sports anymore. It's about money. Sport is the tool to get more of it.

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                          jschell
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                          Le centriste wrote:

                          It's not about sports anymore. It's about money. Sport is the tool to get more of it.

                          Versus when exactly?

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Brazilian police arrest Olympics chief in bribery investigation[^]

                            Quote:

                            arranged $2m bribe to win games for Rio

                            Oops. Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days? If it's not the competitors cheating drug tests, it's the organisers and back handers. :sigh:

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Is there anything clean and honest about sport these days?

                            No

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              Le centriste wrote:

                              It's not about sports anymore. It's about money. Sport is the tool to get more of it.

                              Agreed, at least in professional and semi-professional sports..

                              Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              Isn't that the purpose of professional sports?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                Isn't that the purpose of professional sports?

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                Isn't that the purpose of professional sports?

                                It didn't used to be. Years ago professional sportsmen earned enough to get by, but also enough so that they could reach their peak performance level in the sport they loved. [FROM £20 TO £33,868 PER WEEK: A QUICK HISTORY OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL’S TOP-FLIGHT WAGES](http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/01/20/from-20-to-33868-per-week-a-quick-history-of-english-footballs-top-flight-wages-200101/)

                                Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  Isn't that the purpose of professional sports?

                                  It didn't used to be. Years ago professional sportsmen earned enough to get by, but also enough so that they could reach their peak performance level in the sport they loved. [FROM £20 TO £33,868 PER WEEK: A QUICK HISTORY OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL’S TOP-FLIGHT WAGES](http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/01/20/from-20-to-33868-per-week-a-quick-history-of-english-footballs-top-flight-wages-200101/)

                                  Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  So, the amounts differ...

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    So, the amounts differ...

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                    Yeah, quite a bit. Many sportsmen would have second jobs to support themselves and their families. Once retired from sport, they'd need to find another full-time job.

                                    Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.

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