What version of C# are you using?
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If you use C#? Where I work, we're still on C# [edit] 4 [/edit] 5, with C# 6 or 7 "not in the foreseeable future." X| :elephant: 'ing archaic. Just found out the remote build only targets C# 4. :laugh:
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I am still using the version of C# that is installed with Visual Studio 2015/SP3 for my military simulation development. For all intents and purposes, whether it is for business, game development, serious simulations, or scientifics, and internals, there is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out. Most new features are either different ways of doing the same things that were being done previously or some fine-tuned optimizations, few of which will be really noticeable. That being said, if a new version of C# is released with a feature that is sorely needed for a specific requirement than an upgrade should be considered. Other than that, upgrading simply allows the developer to say he or she is using the latest version...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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If you use C#? Where I work, we're still on C# [edit] 4 [/edit] 5, with C# 6 or 7 "not in the foreseeable future." X| :elephant: 'ing archaic. Just found out the remote build only targets C# 4. :laugh:
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If you use C#? Where I work, we're still on C# [edit] 4 [/edit] 5, with C# 6 or 7 "not in the foreseeable future." X| :elephant: 'ing archaic. Just found out the remote build only targets C# 4. :laugh:
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
What about security? Where I am working, we absolutely need to keep up with the latest versions of the .NET runtime and JVM because of security issues in older versions (yes, and patch the newer versions). I am currently working with VS 2015 update 3 but will move to 2017 as the software engineering organization moves to it.
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If you use C#? Where I work, we're still on C# [edit] 4 [/edit] 5, with C# 6 or 7 "not in the foreseeable future." X| :elephant: 'ing archaic. Just found out the remote build only targets C# 4. :laugh:
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
C# 7.1. But I'm doing a "staff upgrade" on myself. The thing about new language features is not so much what one feature can add, but how together they change the way you code and think about solutions.
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abmv wrote:
Its hard to fix things that aren't broken...
What's broken is we're all using VS 2015 but the remote build process is still building with C# 4. So, if you don't remember to set the "use C# version" under build -> advanced to 4.0, it's easy to write a lot of code using C# 5 or 6 features, only to discover the remote build fails. Or worse, as in my case, you find a snazzy open source package that uses C# 6.0 syntax.
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abmv wrote:
Its hard to fix things that aren't broken...
What's broken is we're all using VS 2015 but the remote build process is still building with C# 4. So, if you don't remember to set the "use C# version" under build -> advanced to 4.0, it's easy to write a lot of code using C# 5 or 6 features, only to discover the remote build fails. Or worse, as in my case, you find a snazzy open source package that uses C# 6.0 syntax.
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Our build server is set up for C#5, but I just include the latest Microsoft.Net.Compilers nuget package into my project and the build server uses that version to build my code. So, I have never had to change the build server and can always use the latest version of C#.
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Our build server is set up for C#5, but I just include the latest Microsoft.Net.Compilers nuget package into my project and the build server uses that version to build my code. So, I have never had to change the build server and can always use the latest version of C#.
Member 12512543 wrote:
Our build server is set up for C#5, but I just include the latest Microsoft.Net.Compilers nuget package into my project and the build server uses that version to build my code.
That's sneaky. I will have to try that. :)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
:elephant:'ing archaic.
A new emoji! :omg:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
A new emoji!
Enjoying the :sunshine: too much? ;)
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I freelance, so I'm using 7.1 :)
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley
Brady Kelly wrote:
I freelance, so I'm using 7.1
Aye, as do I with my side-freelance projects. :)
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You think you have it rough, try using C# 7 while your projects target .NET Framework 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Mario Z wrote:
You think you have it rough, try using C# 7 while your projects target .NET Framework 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Ugh. :(
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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I am still using the version of C# that is installed with Visual Studio 2015/SP3 for my military simulation development. For all intents and purposes, whether it is for business, game development, serious simulations, or scientifics, and internals, there is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out. Most new features are either different ways of doing the same things that were being done previously or some fine-tuned optimizations, few of which will be really noticeable. That being said, if a new version of C# is released with a feature that is sorely needed for a specific requirement than an upgrade should be considered. Other than that, upgrading simply allows the developer to say he or she is using the latest version...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
Steve Naidamast wrote:
here is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out.
Well, I'm noticing some open source projects that specifically target C# 7, like MoreLinq, though I suppose NuGet would resolve that, but I like to be able to build the latest OS code.
Steve Naidamast wrote:
or my military simulation development
Then again, the military probably frowns on using open source packages?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
A new emoji!
Enjoying the :sunshine: too much? ;)
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Hah. Actually yeah. As I get older I realized living too much behind a computer makes your life worse not better. Well, that and I'm looking for a job... again. Because my last contract crapped out. So when in job hunt mode I tend not to do stuff like visit CP. I like the :sunshine:!
Jeremy Falcon
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What about security? Where I am working, we absolutely need to keep up with the latest versions of the .NET runtime and JVM because of security issues in older versions (yes, and patch the newer versions). I am currently working with VS 2015 update 3 but will move to 2017 as the software engineering organization moves to it.
Member 11354034 wrote:
What about security?
The IT department hasn't a clue. Oh sure, things are "secured" all over the place, requiring hoops to get access to a particular database or internal website. But that's about the extent of it. I'll have to add that to the "why we should upgrade the build server" reasons. Thanks!
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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C# 7.1. But I'm doing a "staff upgrade" on myself. The thing about new language features is not so much what one feature can add, but how together they change the way you code and think about solutions.
RandyBuchholz wrote:
The thing about new language features is not so much what one feature can add, but how together they change the way you code and think about solutions.
Yes!!!!
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Steve Naidamast wrote:
here is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out.
Well, I'm noticing some open source projects that specifically target C# 7, like MoreLinq, though I suppose NuGet would resolve that, but I like to be able to build the latest OS code.
Steve Naidamast wrote:
or my military simulation development
Then again, the military probably frowns on using open source packages?
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Marc: The new projects you mention that are targeting a specific C# platform are actually targeting that version of the .NET Framework that has that level of C#, since they are one and the same. As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Marc: The new projects you mention that are targeting a specific C# platform are actually targeting that version of the .NET Framework that has that level of C#, since they are one and the same. As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
Steve Naidamast wrote:
As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...
Yes, that thought occurred to me as I was driving to the grocery store. :)
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Steve Naidamast wrote:
As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...
Yes, that thought occurred to me as I was driving to the grocery store. :)
Latest Article - Class-less Coding - Minimalist C# and Why F# and Function Programming Has Some Advantages Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
HOWEVER, if you have Visual Studio installed, BE VERY CAREFUL how you upgrade the .NET Framework. You must use an update specific for the Visual Studio version you are using or you could have serious issues with the IDE. I learned this the hard way... :(
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
