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Do developers really need a touch screen?

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  • T Tomz_KV

    Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    I don't. Nobody had better touch my databases. :mad:

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      I don't. Nobody had better touch my databases. :mad:

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      Jim_Snyder
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      Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

      Not a single one I can think of. Another bit of fluff to keep you from real work!

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      • T Tomz_KV

        Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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        Ron Anders
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        Nobody really does. That will find it's way to the top of the truth heap in time.

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        • T Tomz_KV

          Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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          Lost User
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          Tomz_KV wrote:

          Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

          An emulator is just that; it may not be an entirely accurate representation of what happens on the real hardware.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          • T Tomz_KV

            Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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            Kaladin
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            The way I see it, the best testing is done on the actual system the user is using, whereas emulators are best used for prototyping and debugging. I've had many problems only occurred when it was run on the actual system.

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            • T Tomz_KV

              Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Not until programming becomes as simple as pointing and clicking. At which time devs will make up about 2,000 fancy acronyms for left click and right click so we can still sound important in meetings.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              • T Tomz_KV

                Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                den2k88
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                Tomz_KV wrote:

                . The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad

                Except when those are not the target devices. Automotive, avionic and ship controls, industrial machines of many kinds... while the proper testing is on the machine the first phase (i.e. is it at least doing what I want it to do?) is more comfortable on the developer machine. Plus, after 6 years of switching back and forth from machines to my workstation I tend to touch the controls on my dev screen and swear loudly because the software is unresponsive without reason...

                GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                • T Tomz_KV

                  Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                  Abhinav S
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                  Nope.

                  Windows Apps - Sound Meter | Color Analyzer | Wallpaper Selector | Football Doodles

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    I don't. Nobody had better touch my databases. :mad:

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                    Tomz_KV
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                    No body can select/insert/update your database?

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                      Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

                      Not a single one I can think of. Another bit of fluff to keep you from real work!

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                      Tomz_KV
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                      My box is 2 years old with a touch screen. With two regular monitors linked to it, I do not remember what was the last time I touched its screen.

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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                        Jochen Arndt
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                        No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                          . The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad

                          Except when those are not the target devices. Automotive, avionic and ship controls, industrial machines of many kinds... while the proper testing is on the machine the first phase (i.e. is it at least doing what I want it to do?) is more comfortable on the developer machine. Plus, after 6 years of switching back and forth from machines to my workstation I tend to touch the controls on my dev screen and swear loudly because the software is unresponsive without reason...

                          GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                          Tomz_KV
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                          Good points.

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                          • J Jochen Arndt

                            No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Can't you turn off only the monitor?

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                              No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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                              Tomz_KV
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                              I think that a touch screen has the ability to tell fingers from wiping paper. Phone screen does. But I have not tried on a work station.

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                              • T Tomz_KV

                                Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                Really, it depends a lot upon how lonely they are.

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                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                • T Tomz_KV

                                  Even with "pair programming"?

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  Nothing changes - one of them still just likes to watch.

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                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Really, it depends a lot upon how lonely they are.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    Even with "pair programming"?

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                                    • T Tomz_KV

                                      No body can select/insert/update your database?

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Not via touch.

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        Can't you turn off only the monitor?

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                                        Jochen Arndt
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                                        I forgot the joke icon :( Some notebooks does not have a function key assigned to turn the screen off (must use an utility for that).

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                                        • J Jochen Arndt

                                          I forgot the joke icon :( Some notebooks does not have a function key assigned to turn the screen off (must use an utility for that).

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          I only do dev work on a laptop if it's docked to three 24" screens. :cool:

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