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Do developers really need a touch screen?

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  • T Tomz_KV

    Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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    Abhinav S
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    Nope.

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      I don't. Nobody had better touch my databases. :mad:

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      Tomz_KV
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      No body can select/insert/update your database?

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      • J Jim_Snyder

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        Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

        Not a single one I can think of. Another bit of fluff to keep you from real work!

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        My box is 2 years old with a touch screen. With two regular monitors linked to it, I do not remember what was the last time I touched its screen.

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        • T Tomz_KV

          Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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          Jochen Arndt
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          No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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            Tomz_KV wrote:

            . The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad

            Except when those are not the target devices. Automotive, avionic and ship controls, industrial machines of many kinds... while the proper testing is on the machine the first phase (i.e. is it at least doing what I want it to do?) is more comfortable on the developer machine. Plus, after 6 years of switching back and forth from machines to my workstation I tend to touch the controls on my dev screen and swear loudly because the software is unresponsive without reason...

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            Good points.

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            • J Jochen Arndt

              No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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              Can't you turn off only the monitor?

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                No. They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.

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                Tomz_KV
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                I think that a touch screen has the ability to tell fingers from wiping paper. Phone screen does. But I have not tried on a work station.

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                • T Tomz_KV

                  Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                  Really, it depends a lot upon how lonely they are.

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                    Really, it depends a lot upon how lonely they are.

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                    Even with "pair programming"?

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                      Even with "pair programming"?

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                      Nothing changes - one of them still just likes to watch.

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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        No body can select/insert/update your database?

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Not via touch.

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                          Can't you turn off only the monitor?

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                          Jochen Arndt
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                          I forgot the joke icon :( Some notebooks does not have a function key assigned to turn the screen off (must use an utility for that).

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                            I forgot the joke icon :( Some notebooks does not have a function key assigned to turn the screen off (must use an utility for that).

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                            I only do dev work on a laptop if it's docked to three 24" screens. :cool:

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                              I think that a touch screen has the ability to tell fingers from wiping paper. Phone screen does. But I have not tried on a work station.

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                              Jochen Arndt
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                              The touch panel and the associated controller does not have that ability AFAIK. The device driver or OS might have. Like with the new edgeless smart phones that sometimes ignore touches on the borders.

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                                I only do dev work on a laptop if it's docked to three 24" screens. :cool:

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                                Jochen Arndt
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                                I usually don't have to clean the screen when doing dev work. That is more often necessary when misusing the system for other puposes :laugh:

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                                  Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                                  I find even the smallest smudge on my dev screen a huge distraction and can't get work done till it's gone (turn-off - easier to see smudges against black.) No way I'd entertain a touch screen (and even more when there's going to be other people "helping".) Once had an ant get in my screen behind the front layer, I figured it'd die in a day or two so first thought was just leave it. 10 minutes later I had the thing disassembled. There's now gouges in the casing (sides) from levering off the snap-on front with a screwdriver - dont care about that - as the display area is clean.)

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                                    I find even the smallest smudge on my dev screen a huge distraction and can't get work done till it's gone (turn-off - easier to see smudges against black.) No way I'd entertain a touch screen (and even more when there's going to be other people "helping".) Once had an ant get in my screen behind the front layer, I figured it'd die in a day or two so first thought was just leave it. 10 minutes later I had the thing disassembled. There's now gouges in the casing (sides) from levering off the snap-on front with a screwdriver - dont care about that - as the display area is clean.)

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                                    Lopatir wrote:

                                    Once had an ant get in my screen behind the front layer

                                    That was a real computer bug. :)

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                                    • T Tomz_KV

                                      Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                                      Being contrarian, I quite enjoy using a touch screen on my laptop for scrolling, and I wish applications were designed to be more usable -- think Minority Report. Unfortunately, because my laptop is my main "desktop" platform and sits to the side of two large non-touch screen monitors, and because the whole setup is at arms length, it's quite inconvenient to touch unless its actually sitting on my lap. ;)

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                                      • T Tomz_KV

                                        Most touch applications are developed using an emulator. The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad. Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?

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                                        Well, I don't have one. But ... After I bought the WookieTab and got used to using it as a Win10 Pad, I found myself getting frustrated that my desktop screen didn't respond when I tapped it... I could see a touchscreen dev machine being really pretty useful, but not essential. I suspect that (just like dual monitors) once you were used to it, it would really slow you down to go without.

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                                          Being contrarian, I quite enjoy using a touch screen on my laptop for scrolling, and I wish applications were designed to be more usable -- think Minority Report. Unfortunately, because my laptop is my main "desktop" platform and sits to the side of two large non-touch screen monitors, and because the whole setup is at arms length, it's quite inconvenient to touch unless its actually sitting on my lap. ;)

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                                          I have two monitors too linked to my laptop that sits in a corner. I rarely touch the laptop screen.

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