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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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    Slacker007
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    Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Sascha Lefevre
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      Mobile users don't see the poll on the homepage ;)

      If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        That was cheerful, really... :-D

        Slacker007 wrote:

        require less sleep then you do

        Less then 4 hours a day? I have coworkers of ~25 that cant' get in before 10...

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          CPallini
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          We (me and you) are too old. :-D

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            We (me and you) are too old. :-D

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            Lost User
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            You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.

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              You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              I was carrying after my grandmother these: [^] but knew nothing of programming then...

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                That was cheerful, really... :-D

                Slacker007 wrote:

                require less sleep then you do

                Less then 4 hours a day? I have coworkers of ~25 that cant' get in before 10...

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                Slacker007
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                You asked a question, and I answered it. How would you have liked me to answer it? No, we are not too old. Yes, we are too old. Perhaps, we are too old.

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  I was carrying after my grandmother these: [^] but knew nothing of programming then...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  The first system I worked on (LEO III/6: Leo Computers Society. Leo 3 photos[^] ) had magnetic tape but no random access storage. Main memory of 16K and a processor that played sounds so you could hear when certain regular programs were nearing the end of processing.

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                    You asked a question, and I answered it. How would you have liked me to answer it? No, we are not too old. Yes, we are too old. Perhaps, we are too old.

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                    I would never have guessed you were that old. :-D

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                      You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.

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                      CPallini
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                      Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development. ;)

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        Abhinav S
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                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                        hype over mobile not real?

                        Mobile statistics are surprising indeed. It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                          hype over mobile not real?

                          Mobile statistics are surprising indeed. It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?

                          Windows Apps - Sound Meter | Color Analyzer | Wallpaper Selector | Football Doodles

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          I'm not sure - I have a kid here, who started with Angular...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            The mobile hype is real, but it's mostly a cash-grab centered on getting people addicted to gacha games, and not a lot of people are needed to run that scam.

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                            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                              1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              I'm beginning to feel too old.

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                                Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development. ;)

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                                But at my age I'm not very mobile. :((

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                                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                  1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  You don't need a developer to create a "mobile app".

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                    RickZeeland
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                                    Old but not beaten yet, or to cite our local motto "Luctor et Emergo" :-\

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Ron Anders
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                                      Yes we are but as for me, I can't help it. I never coded against a mainframe but checked it because there wasn't a choice for mini computers. LSI-11/23, Microvax etc which I did code against.

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                                        1. A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate. 2. There is a great need for programmers for all types of machines, from mainframes to microcontrollers. 3. Mobile programmers have their place, but it is not nearly as important as the Press would have you believe.

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Mobile is the most popular interface - it gets the in your face time. But it still needs the server hosting the data and the info/web server. so basically while the mobile gets all the kudos, it's really only a fancy "dumb terminal." Given that many younguns wouldn't know what that means, it just proves us oldies still know and understand more.

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