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  • L Lost User

    You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.

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    CPallini
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    Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development. ;)

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Abhinav S
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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

      hype over mobile not real?

      Mobile statistics are surprising indeed. It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

        hype over mobile not real?

        Mobile statistics are surprising indeed. It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?

        Windows Apps - Sound Meter | Color Analyzer | Wallpaper Selector | Football Doodles

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        I'm not sure - I have a kid here, who started with Angular...

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

          1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          Lost User
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          The mobile hype is real, but it's mostly a cash-grab centered on getting people addicted to gacha games, and not a lot of people are needed to run that scam.

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          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

            1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I'm beginning to feel too old.

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            • C CPallini

              Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development. ;)

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              Lost User
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              But at my age I'm not very mobile. :((

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                Lost User
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                You don't need a developer to create a "mobile app".

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  RickZeeland
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                  Old but not beaten yet, or to cite our local motto "Luctor et Emergo" :-\

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                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                    1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                    Ron Anders
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                    Yes we are but as for me, I can't help it. I never coded against a mainframe but checked it because there wasn't a choice for mini computers. LSI-11/23, Microvax etc which I did code against.

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      1. A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate. 2. There is a great need for programmers for all types of machines, from mainframes to microcontrollers. 3. Mobile programmers have their place, but it is not nearly as important as the Press would have you believe.

                      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        Lost User
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                        Mobile is the most popular interface - it gets the in your face time. But it still needs the server hosting the data and the info/web server. so basically while the mobile gets all the kudos, it's really only a fancy "dumb terminal." Given that many younguns wouldn't know what that means, it just proves us oldies still know and understand more.

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                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                          1. A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate. 2. There is a great need for programmers for all types of machines, from mainframes to microcontrollers. 3. Mobile programmers have their place, but it is not nearly as important as the Press would have you believe.

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                          A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.

                          But it even has a name: Statistics...

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                            A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.

                            But it even has a name: Statistics...

                            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            You know what they say - there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. :)

                            If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                            • L Lost User

                              I would never have guessed you were that old. :-D

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                              Slacker007
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                              :thumbsup:

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                              • L Lost User

                                But at my age I'm not very mobile. :((

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                                Lost User
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                                lol :thumbsup:

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                                • L Lost User

                                  But at my age I'm not very mobile. :((

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    So we either adapt or get left behind too poop in our adult diapers.

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      It means the bulk of software development is still on things with keyboards. Lots of people seem to forget that.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      • S Slacker007

                                        Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?

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                                        Jacquers
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                                        I better make the most of the next 5 months then :laugh:

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?

                                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                          Kirill Illenseer
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                                          I'd say, it dependso on where you sit and whom you're listening to. Case in example: Loads of IT news, including on CodeProject, is about web stuff. And not few JS programmers just talk about JS and their web stuff like it was a general IT truth. They don't begin with "The following article and the findings I present apply to the web and web only, I absolutely ignore desktop programming and I literally couldn't care less about embedded programming." They just present their findings as a general truth wihch, in their respective field, is absolutely right. I, as a desktop/embedded programmer used to get bewildered by that, simply because what they're saying isn't true for my field. I think, the whole mobile buzz and how important it is is another case of "not my field".

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