Are we too old?
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You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.
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1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Could you really buy a mobile phone in 1946 in your part of the world? Here in Norway, they didn't arrive until 20 years later, in 1966, and the setup had to go through an operator. I also was unaware of computers at the time of WW1. I have always been thinking of the IBM 360 series as the first true "mainframe" computer, but that didn't arrive on the scene until 1963. I still got my old desktop from when I was a school boy; I believe I got it in 1968. But if you are talking compuers, I guess it didn't arrive until 1973. I didn't use one until the early 80s, though, when I was working with a company that was considering the not-yet-released GEM for their new PC line (we ended up with Windows 1.0, though - and I guess my contribution to that decision was significant).
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Ahhh what we're talking about here is "real computers". Not terribly dissimilar to the ICL System 4's I cut my teeth on in the late 70's. Curiously enough, one of the links on that page was to an Aussie ICL/Leo reunion and behold! there were four guys that I worked with when I was an (ICL) engineer in Melbourne from '88 to 93....
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Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?
Not really. There are two industries inside our industry. One is a lottery and the other one is knowledge based. Lottery are shining web thingies and mobile apps. Products that, given sufficient supply of coke, coffee, and weeks, can be replicated by any group of students, anywhere. It's a lottery because you have to be on the right place in the right time to succeed. There is only one Twitter, even if the underlying app is less than impressive. Its capital today is the content crowd, not the app. And than there are things that random groups of students can't replicate. In years. Because they are just too hard. Like DBMS servers, rockets, self-driving cars, pacemakers, etc. Hence ... if you want a long lasting career in programming ... you have to grow out of the lottery stuff. My 0.05£.
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Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?
Slacker007 wrote:
If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry
Agist prick.
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1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Slacker007 wrote:
If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry
Agist prick.
Software Zen:
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I like that. I was once young and stupid and full of myself. At my current age, two out of three ain't bad. I was going to use the old standard, "age and treachery overcomes youth and skill", but I thought simpler was better.
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I like that. I was once young and stupid and full of myself. At my current age, two out of three ain't bad. I was going to use the old standard, "age and treachery overcomes youth and skill", but I thought simpler was better.
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I couldn't find an attribution for it; it seems to have been around for quite a while.
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I couldn't find an attribution for it; it seems to have been around for quite a while.
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Courtesy of Google Translate: "fraudis solertia vincit aetate iuventus".
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Courtesy of Google Translate: "fraudis solertia vincit aetate iuventus".
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1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I'm 74 and I just retired last year. I was 40 when I started. And I've done very well financially.
At 40 today you should have a hard time to find job...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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1. Desktop 2. Mobile (-46) 3. Mainframe (-14) Does it mean we are an old community, or that all the hype over mobile not real?
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
Made a living programming for 33 years - punch cards, Fortran, CDC, Cray, custom devices, Unix, C; retired 22 years ago. Now I code for my own amusement in C# on my windows desktop (most recently toying with the 9 square illusion) Am I too old? Yes, I am. Too difficult for my tired old eyes to spend a lot of time squinting at Mobile devices. But at 75 I still read Codeproject news!
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Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?
Keep up with the under-35 crowd in software development? At 63, I still run rings around them.
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Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?
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Keep up with the under-35 crowd in software development? At 63, I still run rings around them.
Sure you do. :~
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Mobile is real. If you are over 35, you are too old for this industry. Try having fun instead of killing yourself, "trying" to keep up with those that are younger, smarter, and require less sleep then you do. Yes, we are wise, but that really doesn't mean shit, now does it?
Nonsense! I know a lot of people working on mobile development (mostly games) and at least half of them are over 35. It's not all about "crunch", although that was one of the reasons I got out of games dev* (in my 50's). And it's most definitely not the case that younger means smarter, especially when it comes to doing clever optimisations to squeeze out the last bit of performance or to reduce memory usage. [ * when I say out, I mean professionally - I still do indy development at home, including mobile stuff... ]
Days spent at sea are not deducted from one's alloted span - Phoenician proverb
