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  • M Madhu Cheriyedath

    I guess Java is going towards C# and .NET..:):):):) http://java.sun.com/features/2003/05/bloch_qa.html[^] Madhu.

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    evr76
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    In J2EE's defense, Java developers have been asking for these features for years. If anything, .NET has been a movement towards J2EE. The idea if IL is analogous to bytecode in Java. A standard class library across the platform has also been around for quite some time in the Java world.

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    • M Madhu Cheriyedath

      I guess Java is going towards C# and .NET..:):):):) http://java.sun.com/features/2003/05/bloch_qa.html[^] Madhu.

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      I guess Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I guess Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
        Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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        Roger Wright
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        Marc Clifton wrote: Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Hmmm. IL, garbage collection, and managed code sure smell a lot like Java. And the CLR is looking a whole bunch like a monster VM. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... maybe it's a duck.;P "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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        • R Roger Wright

          Marc Clifton wrote: Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Hmmm. IL, garbage collection, and managed code sure smell a lot like Java. And the CLR is looking a whole bunch like a monster VM. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... maybe it's a duck.;P "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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          Jon Newman
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          Roger Wright wrote: maybe it's a duck. Mallard.NET


          "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
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          • M Marc Clifton

            I guess Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
            Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
            Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
            Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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            Christian Graus
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            Tell me you're joking, please ? C# *is* a knock up copy of Java. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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              Roger Wright wrote: maybe it's a duck. Mallard.NET


              "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
              - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
              "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
              - Anon


              Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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              Jonny Newman wrote: Mallard.NET :laugh::laugh: Probably to be released with Longhorn, a steak and fowl combination that MS is cooking up. "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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              • C Christian Graus

                Tell me you're joking, please ? C# *is* a knock up copy of Java. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                Christian Graus wrote: knock up copy of Java Its an improvement on Java. This stuff actually works.


                "If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
                - Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
                "If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
                - Anon


                Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Tell me you're joking, please ? C# *is* a knock up copy of Java. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                  Yes, yes, I'm joking. But why is it that I like C# and I could never tolerate Java? To answer my own question, I think it's in part because I really have an emotional repulsion to cutesy names (of course, C# is pretty cutesy in itself), and the people that were touting Java a few years ago at the company I worked for were real dorks. I guess I base my opinions of things more on emotion than on logic. However, the Java crowd has, from my observations, always held the "holier than thou" attitude, which I just can't stand (seeing as I have one myself) :-D At least with C#, there seems to be some realism and actual discussion of performance issues, etc., whereas the Java people I talked to never questioned their gods. marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                  Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                  Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                  Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                    Marc Clifton wrote: Java is in its copy-cat death throws. Hmmm. IL, garbage collection, and managed code sure smell a lot like Java. And the CLR is looking a whole bunch like a monster VM. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... maybe it's a duck.;P "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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                    Roger Wright wrote: If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... maybe it's a duck. But at least C# quacks like a duck. Java always sounded more like a strangled chicken. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                    Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                    Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                    Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Yes, yes, I'm joking. But why is it that I like C# and I could never tolerate Java? To answer my own question, I think it's in part because I really have an emotional repulsion to cutesy names (of course, C# is pretty cutesy in itself), and the people that were touting Java a few years ago at the company I worked for were real dorks. I guess I base my opinions of things more on emotion than on logic. However, the Java crowd has, from my observations, always held the "holier than thou" attitude, which I just can't stand (seeing as I have one myself) :-D At least with C#, there seems to be some realism and actual discussion of performance issues, etc., whereas the Java people I talked to never questioned their gods. marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Marc Clifton wrote: But why is it that I like C# and I could never tolerate Java? Because it has a cool IDE, and most JAva IDE's are unuseable ? A reaction to the overhyping of Java, but you're used to Microsoft over hyping things ? Because it's integrated into the platform you use ( Windows ) ? I dunno. I like C# better, too, but I use Java and it's quite OK for me. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Roger Wright wrote: If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck... maybe it's a duck. But at least C# quacks like a duck. Java always sounded more like a strangled chicken. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                        Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
                        Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
                        Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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                        :-D Marc Clifton wrote: Java always sounded more like a strangled chicken. So programming in Java produces results similar to choking the chicken... Hmmm, so where's the downside?:cool: "Please don't put cigarette butts in the urinal. It makes them soggy and hard to light" - Sign in a Bullhead City, AZ Restroom

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