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    A_Griffin
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    ... give them all one of these[^]

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      ... give them all one of these[^]

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      It's easy to trivialize and joke about what you don't understand.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        It's easy to trivialize and joke about what you don't understand.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        So it is. So what? It's also easy to trivialise and joke about things you do understand. It's a pretty boring and tbh quite pathetic response to an attitude you don't like to just say "You don't understand". You think (you've said) that as I'm not American I can't understand American culture and the gun argument - so how do you explain all those born and bred Americans who also don't like it? It's quite possible for people who disagree with you to have just as good an understanding of the issues as you do, you know.

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          ... give them all one of these[^]

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          Chris Rock wrote:

          “You don’t need no gun control, you know what you need? We need some bullet control. Man, we need to control the bullets, that’s right. I think all bullets should cost five thousand dollars… five thousand dollars per bullet… You know why? Cause if a bullet cost five thousand dollars there would be no more innocent bystanders. Yeah! Every time somebody get shot we’d say, ‘Damn, he must have done something ... Shit, he’s got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass.’ And people would think before they killed somebody if a bullet cost five thousand dollars. ‘Man I would blow your fucking head off…if I could afford it.’ ‘I’m gonna get me another job, I’m going to start saving some money, and you’re a dead man. You’d better hope I can’t get no bullets on layaway.’ So even if you get shot by a stray bullet, you wouldn't have to go to no doctor to get it taken out. Whoever shot you would take their bullet back, like "I believe you got my property.”

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            So it is. So what? It's also easy to trivialise and joke about things you do understand. It's a pretty boring and tbh quite pathetic response to an attitude you don't like to just say "You don't understand". You think (you've said) that as I'm not American I can't understand American culture and the gun argument - so how do you explain all those born and bred Americans who also don't like it? It's quite possible for people who disagree with you to have just as good an understanding of the issues as you do, you know.

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            I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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              I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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              WHAT?! You can't kill a bear by flicking an elastic band at it? Fuck me, who would have guessed that....

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                I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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                The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  And I for one have never claimed, ore even thought, it was. Matt is employing, not for the first time, what's called a straw man argument.

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                    ... give them all one of these[^]

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                    Why just US citizens? Would you deny a gun like this to Europeans? Could they not handle one?

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer.

                      We get our frozen chicken from Tesco.

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                        I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer

                        What's the point in shooting a dead chicken?

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Le centriste
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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                          You're right. Europe is much better.

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                            You're right. Europe is much better.

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                            Better for Europeans, maybe. Or people that wish they were European.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              You havent seen the south of france.... (I was on my way to Marseille airport and two rival gangs had a shoot out on the motorway, in cars, with AK 47s. It was a mess.)

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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer.

                                We get our frozen chicken from Tesco.

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                                No, they shot the BEARS. :)

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                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer

                                  What's the point in shooting a dead chicken?

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  They shot the bears John.

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                                    Better for Europeans, maybe. Or people that wish they were European.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    :thumbsup:

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                                      No, they shot the BEARS. :)

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                                      I know. It was a joke. It's something Europeans do.

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                                        They shot the bears John.

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                                        I know, but the way your sentence was constructed, it could have been the chickens, so I jumped at the opportunity to be a smart-ass. :)

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          I know. It was a joke. It's something Europeans do.

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                                          Right...

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