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  • A A_Griffin

    So it is. So what? It's also easy to trivialise and joke about things you do understand. It's a pretty boring and tbh quite pathetic response to an attitude you don't like to just say "You don't understand". You think (you've said) that as I'm not American I can't understand American culture and the gun argument - so how do you explain all those born and bred Americans who also don't like it? It's quite possible for people who disagree with you to have just as good an understanding of the issues as you do, you know.

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    I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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      I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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      A_Griffin
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      WHAT?! You can't kill a bear by flicking an elastic band at it? Fuck me, who would have guessed that....

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        I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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        realJSOP
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        The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          A_Griffin
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          And I for one have never claimed, ore even thought, it was. Matt is employing, not for the first time, what's called a straw man argument.

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          • A A_Griffin

            ... give them all one of these[^]

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            ZurdoDev
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            Why just US citizens? Would you deny a gun like this to Europeans? Could they not handle one?

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer.

              We get our frozen chicken from Tesco.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                I was out in Coloma on route 49 having a coffee and chatting to the girl who worked there. She was about 20, and lived not far, but further up in the hills with her mum. They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer. How do you defend yourself with elastic bands? The US isnt like much of Europe, so really you don't know what you are talking about.

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                realJSOP
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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer

                What's the point in shooting a dead chicken?

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                -----
                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Le centriste
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                  You're right. Europe is much better.

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                  • L Le centriste

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                    You're right. Europe is much better.

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                    realJSOP
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                    Better for Europeans, maybe. Or people that wish they were European.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      The US isn't like ANY of Europe.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      You havent seen the south of france.... (I was on my way to Marseille airport and two rival gangs had a shoot out on the motorway, in cars, with AK 47s. It was a mess.)

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                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                        They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer.

                        We get our frozen chicken from Tesco.

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                        Munchies_Matt
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                        No, they shot the BEARS. :)

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          They had a couple of bears that were killing their chickens and generally being a pain so they shot them, butchered them and put them in the freezer

                          What's the point in shooting a dead chicken?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          They shot the bears John.

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Better for Europeans, maybe. Or people that wish they were European.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Le centriste
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                            :thumbsup:

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              No, they shot the BEARS. :)

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                              I know. It was a joke. It's something Europeans do.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                They shot the bears John.

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                                realJSOP
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                                I know, but the way your sentence was constructed, it could have been the chickens, so I jumped at the opportunity to be a smart-ass. :)

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  I know. It was a joke. It's something Europeans do.

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                                  Right...

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Better for Europeans, maybe. Or people that wish they were European.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    den2k88
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                                    Ask the Swiss and the Czechs, who are fighting to the last to keep their arms and the long hand of the government away from them.

                                    GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      You havent seen the south of france.... (I was on my way to Marseille airport and two rival gangs had a shoot out on the motorway, in cars, with AK 47s. It was a mess.)

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                                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                                      And you haven'the seen Chicago, which has simultaneously extremely restrictive gun laws and regular gang shootouts.

                                      Ad astra - both ways!

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        And you haven'the seen Chicago, which has simultaneously extremely restrictive gun laws and regular gang shootouts.

                                        Ad astra - both ways!

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                                        den2k88
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                                        Or New York... Or (changing nation) Naples...

                                        GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Why just US citizens? Would you deny a gun like this to Europeans? Could they not handle one?

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          First, the EU commission will try to ban it, because the producer has a monopoly. Then the manual has to be translated umpteen times. The Catalonians would be "dangerously armed" suddenly, able to cause great eye-injuries to our soldiers! With the current cost of healthcare in the EU we would go broke. Then there'll be discussions on how to prohibit 3D-printers, because people can print the materials to build their own guns. On the other hand, our soldiers currently practice by yelling "peng"; so it might be kind of exciting for them to handle some real ammo :-\

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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