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  • N Nicholas Marty

    I like it better than 8(.1) at least

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    Rick York
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    I agree with that but it's really not saying very much. It's kind of a lesser of two evils situation with those, for me.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I use it, but I still don't like .Net.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Rick York
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      I don't like it either. Thankfully, I don't have to use it. :cool:

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        I know you probably don't give a shiz, but I like it quite well. I think it's better than Win 7. Been using Win10 for 3 or so years since the preview came out. I wonder if the issues you have with it are due to third-party hardware, drivers and software?

        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        • M megaadam

          What I installed at home, last night: [linuxmint.com](https://linuxmint.com/) On one of these: [intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7i5dnke.html)

          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          I've used Mint and Cinnamon. Very nice. Still like Windows 10 better.

          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Luddite.

            Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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              Luddite.

              Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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              realJSOP
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              That's me. :)

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                I know you probably don't give a shiz, but I like it quite well. I think it's better than Win 7. Been using Win10 for 3 or so years since the preview came out. I wonder if the issues you have with it are due to third-party hardware, drivers and software?

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. Microsoft is trying to get their users to do what apple users do - download "approved" apps from an app store.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. Microsoft is trying to get their users to do what apple users do - download "approved" apps from an app store.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  Yeah, I'm not a super fan of that either. They're trying to tax other people's work.

                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    kmoorevs
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                    Aside from the overnight unattended restarts, I haven't had any problems with it. The biggest plus for me is getting taskbars on multiple monitors. The worst to me is still the start menu. That said, I would have been quite happy plugging along with Win 7. I remember the happy days of leaving work with 'work in progress' not having to worry about losing my place due to an elephanting unattended restart! Win 7 did spoil me in that regard. :)

                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Would Classic Shell[^] or Start8/Start10[^] help?  I installed Start8 at work when I was forced to move to Win8 a couple of years back, which returned Win7's productivity back to my desktop. /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      • M megaadam

                        What I installed at home, last night: [linuxmint.com](https://linuxmint.com/) On one of these: [intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7i5dnke.html)

                        ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                        dandy72
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                        +1 for the NUC. I'm a fan. Mine runs my 4K TV (and additional monitors via VGA->USB), and I use it to remote into all the VMs I have running on my beefier machine sitting in another room.

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          Would Classic Shell[^] or Start8/Start10[^] help?  I installed Start8 at work when I was forced to move to Win8 a couple of years back, which returned Win7's productivity back to my desktop. /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          realJSOP
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                          I don't have admin permissions to install anything. This is a DoD system.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Slacker007
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                            Windows 10 is fine, just takes some getting used to. I have no more complaints now about it then I did windows 7, etc.

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                              That wasn't because of Windows 10. That was because our IT department is a bunch of retards. They actually had a DBA drawn in to fix what amounts to a network permissions issue. He didn't have the necessary permissions to effect change, and even if he did, he's a freakin DBA, NOT a network system admin. After half a dozen emails between us, I said, "Call me crazy, but OUR Net Ops guys should be talking to THEIR Net Ops guys, and you and I shouldn't be trading emails about this at all." I think someone saw the logic there, and all of a sudden, I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              , I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                              A very good start.   Commendable, in fact! Now take it to the next step, where I reside:   I don't get invited to meetings, either.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                Aside from the overnight unattended restarts, I haven't had any problems with it. The biggest plus for me is getting taskbars on multiple monitors. The worst to me is still the start menu. That said, I would have been quite happy plugging along with Win 7. I remember the happy days of leaving work with 'work in progress' not having to worry about losing my place due to an elephanting unattended restart! Win 7 did spoil me in that regard. :)

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                Win 7 did spoil me in that regard.

                                A victim of social engineering professionals! It is not normal or acceptable for your computer to do things (like restarts) without your permission. Trust me on this - things used to be different. Before the great fear began to hover in the background . . . waiting for just the right moment to strike.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  , I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                                  A very good start.   Commendable, in fact! Now take it to the next step, where I reside:   I don't get invited to meetings, either.

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  I overheard this once: Dept Head: Maybe we should include John in this meeting. (my) Manager: I'm not sure we wanna do that. Dept Head: Why not? He knows his sh|t. (my) Manager: I know, but the network guys don't like it when someone tells them the god's honest truth. John tells the truth with no filters. Dept Head: Hmmm, maybe you're right, but we should keep John in mind if the network guys need a dose of truth telling. (my) Manager: Sure. I'll give him a heads up. The meeting happened, and evidently, I wasn't needed. So silver linings...

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Windows 10 is fine, just takes some getting used to. I have no more complaints now about it then I did windows 7, etc.

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                                    Win10 ain't getting installed at my house. I still play the winXP versions of Solitaire and minesweeper because I don't like the visual changes they made to them in Vista/Win7...

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      Win10 ain't getting installed at my house. I still play the winXP versions of Solitaire and minesweeper because I don't like the visual changes they made to them in Vista/Win7...

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      and this is why the community loves you John. Please don't ever change. :)

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        I overheard this once: Dept Head: Maybe we should include John in this meeting. (my) Manager: I'm not sure we wanna do that. Dept Head: Why not? He knows his sh|t. (my) Manager: I know, but the network guys don't like it when someone tells them the god's honest truth. John tells the truth with no filters. Dept Head: Hmmm, maybe you're right, but we should keep John in mind if the network guys need a dose of truth telling. (my) Manager: Sure. I'll give him a heads up. The meeting happened, and evidently, I wasn't needed. So silver linings...

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        W Balboos GHB
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                                        How strange. Even we have stuff in common!

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        • C CodeWraith

                                          In Texas something like this could be seen as self defense.

                                          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                          CodeWraith wrote:

                                          n Texas something like this could be seen as self defense.

                                          My wife asked me, why I carry a gun in the house. I looked at her and said, Decepticons. She laughed, I laughed, the toaster laughed. I shot the toaster. It was a good time.. :)


                                          Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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