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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I use it, but I still don't like .Net.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Rick York
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    I don't like it either. Thankfully, I don't have to use it. :cool:

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      I know you probably don't give a shiz, but I like it quite well. I think it's better than Win 7. Been using Win10 for 3 or so years since the preview came out. I wonder if the issues you have with it are due to third-party hardware, drivers and software?

      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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      • M megaadam

        What I installed at home, last night: [linuxmint.com](https://linuxmint.com/) On one of these: [intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7i5dnke.html)

        ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        I've used Mint and Cinnamon. Very nice. Still like Windows 10 better.

        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Luddite.

          Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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            Luddite.

            Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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            realJSOP
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            That's me. :)

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              I know you probably don't give a shiz, but I like it quite well. I think it's better than Win 7. Been using Win10 for 3 or so years since the preview came out. I wonder if the issues you have with it are due to third-party hardware, drivers and software?

              #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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              realJSOP
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              It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. Microsoft is trying to get their users to do what apple users do - download "approved" apps from an app store.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                It's nothing more than change for the sake of change. Microsoft is trying to get their users to do what apple users do - download "approved" apps from an app store.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                Yeah, I'm not a super fan of that either. They're trying to tax other people's work.

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  kmoorevs
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                  Aside from the overnight unattended restarts, I haven't had any problems with it. The biggest plus for me is getting taskbars on multiple monitors. The worst to me is still the start menu. That said, I would have been quite happy plugging along with Win 7. I remember the happy days of leaving work with 'work in progress' not having to worry about losing my place due to an elephanting unattended restart! Win 7 did spoil me in that regard. :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Would Classic Shell[^] or Start8/Start10[^] help?  I installed Start8 at work when I was forced to move to Win8 a couple of years back, which returned Win7's productivity back to my desktop. /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    • M megaadam

                      What I installed at home, last night: [linuxmint.com](https://linuxmint.com/) On one of these: [intel NUC](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/kits/nuc7i5dnke.html)

                      ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                      dandy72
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                      +1 for the NUC. I'm a fan. Mine runs my 4K TV (and additional monitors via VGA->USB), and I use it to remote into all the VMs I have running on my beefier machine sitting in another room.

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                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                        Would Classic Shell[^] or Start8/Start10[^] help?  I installed Start8 at work when I was forced to move to Win8 a couple of years back, which returned Win7's productivity back to my desktop. /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        realJSOP
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                        I don't have admin permissions to install anything. This is a DoD system.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          There is NOTHING about Win10 that I like.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                          -----
                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Slacker007
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                          Windows 10 is fine, just takes some getting used to. I have no more complaints now about it then I did windows 7, etc.

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            That wasn't because of Windows 10. That was because our IT department is a bunch of retards. They actually had a DBA drawn in to fix what amounts to a network permissions issue. He didn't have the necessary permissions to effect change, and even if he did, he's a freakin DBA, NOT a network system admin. After half a dozen emails between us, I said, "Call me crazy, but OUR Net Ops guys should be talking to THEIR Net Ops guys, and you and I shouldn't be trading emails about this at all." I think someone saw the logic there, and all of a sudden, I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            W Balboos GHB
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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            , I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                            A very good start.   Commendable, in fact! Now take it to the next step, where I reside:   I don't get invited to meetings, either.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              Aside from the overnight unattended restarts, I haven't had any problems with it. The biggest plus for me is getting taskbars on multiple monitors. The worst to me is still the start menu. That said, I would have been quite happy plugging along with Win 7. I remember the happy days of leaving work with 'work in progress' not having to worry about losing my place due to an elephanting unattended restart! Win 7 did spoil me in that regard. :)

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              kmoorevs wrote:

                              Win 7 did spoil me in that regard.

                              A victim of social engineering professionals! It is not normal or acceptable for your computer to do things (like restarts) without your permission. Trust me on this - things used to be different. Before the great fear began to hover in the background . . . waiting for just the right moment to strike.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              • W W Balboos GHB

                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                , I'm no longer in the email chain. That's fine with me.

                                A very good start.   Commendable, in fact! Now take it to the next step, where I reside:   I don't get invited to meetings, either.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                I overheard this once: Dept Head: Maybe we should include John in this meeting. (my) Manager: I'm not sure we wanna do that. Dept Head: Why not? He knows his sh|t. (my) Manager: I know, but the network guys don't like it when someone tells them the god's honest truth. John tells the truth with no filters. Dept Head: Hmmm, maybe you're right, but we should keep John in mind if the network guys need a dose of truth telling. (my) Manager: Sure. I'll give him a heads up. The meeting happened, and evidently, I wasn't needed. So silver linings...

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  Windows 10 is fine, just takes some getting used to. I have no more complaints now about it then I did windows 7, etc.

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                                  Win10 ain't getting installed at my house. I still play the winXP versions of Solitaire and minesweeper because I don't like the visual changes they made to them in Vista/Win7...

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Win10 ain't getting installed at my house. I still play the winXP versions of Solitaire and minesweeper because I don't like the visual changes they made to them in Vista/Win7...

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    and this is why the community loves you John. Please don't ever change. :)

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I overheard this once: Dept Head: Maybe we should include John in this meeting. (my) Manager: I'm not sure we wanna do that. Dept Head: Why not? He knows his sh|t. (my) Manager: I know, but the network guys don't like it when someone tells them the god's honest truth. John tells the truth with no filters. Dept Head: Hmmm, maybe you're right, but we should keep John in mind if the network guys need a dose of truth telling. (my) Manager: Sure. I'll give him a heads up. The meeting happened, and evidently, I wasn't needed. So silver linings...

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      W Balboos GHB
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                                      How strange. Even we have stuff in common!

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      • C CodeWraith

                                        In Texas something like this could be seen as self defense.

                                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                        S Douglas
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                                        CodeWraith wrote:

                                        n Texas something like this could be seen as self defense.

                                        My wife asked me, why I carry a gun in the house. I looked at her and said, Decepticons. She laughed, I laughed, the toaster laughed. I shot the toaster. It was a good time.. :)


                                        Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                          kmoorevs wrote:

                                          Win 7 did spoil me in that regard.

                                          A victim of social engineering professionals! It is not normal or acceptable for your computer to do things (like restarts) without your permission. Trust me on this - things used to be different. Before the great fear began to hover in the background . . . waiting for just the right moment to strike.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          I agree fully. To me, the worst part about that is my laptop (which runs W10) will start itself when the lid is closed and try to update. That really angers me because it is a gaming laptop with a pretty good GPU in it and it relies heavily on cooling through the keyboard slots. With the lid closed that doesn't happen and it get really hot. I came home after work one day to find it powered on with the lid closed. The keys were too hot to touch and I was livid. I would like to know who is stupid enough to think that is a good idea. If were in charge at microsoft I would have been kicking behinds the next day.

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