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  • G glennPattonWork3

    Yossariane would be proud! :laugh:

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    megaadam
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    That is a Major Major truth.

    ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      Catch-22

      "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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      Nelek
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      I prefer 42 :)

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • M megaadam

        That is a Major Major truth.

        ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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        glennPattonWork3
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        Here we go! :rolleyes:

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        • R realJSOP

          Because a lawyer is entering the plea, and (if you believe them) lawyers aren't insane.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          Stefan_Lang
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          The term 'reason', as used in this phrase, does not refer to the ability to reason of either the lawyer or the defendant, but the cause for the defendant of not being guilty (because of not being able to intend to perform a crime due to insanity). Having said that, it would have been clearer to just say 'because' rather than 'by reason of'. :doh: The hilarity simply emerges from the convoluted ways of expressing stuff in legalese.:~

          GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Heard that phrase on the radio this morning and it occurred to me, if you're insane, how can you plead not guilty using "reason"? Seems rather contradictory to me! ;P

            Latest Article - Contextual Data Explorer Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Actually something I mull over now and then. For a lot of criminal acts, you's have to be insane to even try them (various reasons). As an example, killing someone for their sneakers. Animal cruelty is another. On that basis, it really is a guilty plea. OK - so we won't send you to prison, but since you're that crazy, we'll never let you out on the streets again. Much to dangerous and unpredictable. Case closed !

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Heard that phrase on the radio this morning and it occurred to me, if you're insane, how can you plead not guilty using "reason"? Seems rather contradictory to me! ;P

              Latest Article - Contextual Data Explorer Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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              Caslen
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              Always puzzled me how you could be not guilty of murder by reason of insanity - surely no sane person would commit murder?

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Heard that phrase on the radio this morning and it occurred to me, if you're insane, how can you plead not guilty using "reason"? Seems rather contradictory to me! ;P

                Latest Article - Contextual Data Explorer Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Sooooo, I read that as "not guity by reason of insanity" Marc Clifton. It's good to know you have a defence.

                This space for rent

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  Actually something I mull over now and then. For a lot of criminal acts, you's have to be insane to even try them (various reasons). As an example, killing someone for their sneakers. Animal cruelty is another. On that basis, it really is a guilty plea. OK - so we won't send you to prison, but since you're that crazy, we'll never let you out on the streets again. Much to dangerous and unpredictable. Case closed !

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  Tim Carmichael
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                  Not necessarily insane, just immoral.

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                  • S Stefan_Lang

                    The term 'reason', as used in this phrase, does not refer to the ability to reason of either the lawyer or the defendant, but the cause for the defendant of not being guilty (because of not being able to intend to perform a crime due to insanity). Having said that, it would have been clearer to just say 'because' rather than 'by reason of'. :doh: The hilarity simply emerges from the convoluted ways of expressing stuff in legalese.:~

                    GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                    peterkmx
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                    it looks like "reason" is a homonym ...

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                    • P peterkmx

                      it looks like "reason" is a homonym ...

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                      I'm surprised you're allowed to use the word "homonym" because it has the word "homo" in it.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      • R realJSOP

                        I'm surprised you're allowed to use the word "homonym" because it has the word "homo" in it.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        peterkmx
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                        Yep .. it seems to be allowed, and only now I am fully aware of the risk I took ( excluded, banished from the Lounge, not allowed to talk in SOTW, etc ...)

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Heard that phrase on the radio this morning and it occurred to me, if you're insane, how can you plead not guilty using "reason"? Seems rather contradictory to me! ;P

                          Latest Article - Contextual Data Explorer Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                          dandy72
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                          The best one is "temporary insanity". How convenient!

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                          • D dandy72

                            The best one is "temporary insanity". How convenient!

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            That's also known as parenthood.

                            This space for rent

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              That's also known as parenthood.

                              This space for rent

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                              dandy72
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                              As a non-parent, suddenly that explains a lot.

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                              • D dandy72

                                The best one is "temporary insanity". How convenient!

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                                shell787
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                                yeah.. for sure... temporary insanity. we'd live in a perfect world. I hope there are valid ways to demonstarte that moment of insanity

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Heard that phrase on the radio this morning and it occurred to me, if you're insane, how can you plead not guilty using "reason"? Seems rather contradictory to me! ;P

                                  Latest Article - Contextual Data Explorer Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                  Mycroft Holmes
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                                  In which case the pleader should be instantly neutered and locked in a padded cell for a substantial term. I'm a great believer in eugenics :laugh:

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                  • R realJSOP

                                    I'm surprised you're allowed to use the word "homonym" because it has the word "homo" in it.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Heteronym[^]

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Heteronym[^]

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      peterkmx
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                                      wow ... until now I never heard of heteronyms but distinction based on sound seems fuzzy to me, - spelling is well defined, but sounds ... this would mean that a homonym can also sometimes be a heteronym, or did I miss your point ... Cheers,

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                                        wow ... until now I never heard of heteronyms but distinction based on sound seems fuzzy to me, - spelling is well defined, but sounds ... this would mean that a homonym can also sometimes be a heteronym, or did I miss your point ... Cheers,

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        It was mostly a play on words :rim-shot:.

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                                        • G Gary Wheeler

                                          It was mostly a play on words :rim-shot:.

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                                          peterkmx
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                                          Oops ... in some way I thought so. It would be thus "learning by playing", which is BTW quite a good outcome ...

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