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    Super Lloyd
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    Forgot my password, had to reset it. Discover this unfriendly rule: "Please choose a password that you haven't used before. To help protect your account, you need to choose a new password every time you reset it." This is age-ism! How could we, us old gizzard, remember a brand new password every time we forgot the old one?! :((

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      Forgot my password, had to reset it. Discover this unfriendly rule: "Please choose a password that you haven't used before. To help protect your account, you need to choose a new password every time you reset it." This is age-ism! How could we, us old gizzard, remember a brand new password every time we forgot the old one?! :((

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      OriginalGriff
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      Simple: put a number on the end, and just increment it by one! :laugh:

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Simple: put a number on the end, and just increment it by one! :laugh:

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        pkfox
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        That's what I do, but on occasion I've had the message "your new password is too similar to your existing one"

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          That's what I do, but on occasion I've had the message "your new password is too similar to your existing one"

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          OriginalGriff
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          That's why I use GUIDs as passwords... :laugh:

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            That's what I do, but on occasion I've had the message "your new password is too similar to your existing one"

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            Lost User
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            pkfox wrote:

            your new password is too similar to your existing one

            I would avoid such sites as they are either storing the plain text or using a really weak encryption - a decent encryption will be very different for similar words.

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              pkfox wrote:

              your new password is too similar to your existing one

              I would avoid such sites as they are either storing the plain text or using a really weak encryption - a decent encryption will be very different for similar words.

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              Dan Neely
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              Similarity checks don't need plaintext unless you go with an extraordinarily slow hash function.

              var variations = GetAllOneCharactersChanges(newPassword);

              foreach (var variation in variations)
              {
              if (oldPasswordHashes.Contains(Hash(variation)))
              {
              tooSimilar = true;
              }
              }

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              • S Super Lloyd

                Forgot my password, had to reset it. Discover this unfriendly rule: "Please choose a password that you haven't used before. To help protect your account, you need to choose a new password every time you reset it." This is age-ism! How could we, us old gizzard, remember a brand new password every time we forgot the old one?! :((

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                your initials in all caps a loved one's initials in lower case a single special character as *, @, etc. month password created i.e. 02 year password was created i.e. 18 I use this for all my work related passwords. this is especially effective for passwords that need to be changed every n-months. the important part is that the password remains the same except for the last 4 digits.

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                  your initials in all caps a loved one's initials in lower case a single special character as *, @, etc. month password created i.e. 02 year password was created i.e. 18 I use this for all my work related passwords. this is especially effective for passwords that need to be changed every n-months. the important part is that the password remains the same except for the last 4 digits.

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                  MarkTJohnson
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                  Along the same vein, keep the string the same and change the casing AbcDef1234 becomes aBcdEf1234 becomes abCdeF1234 etc etc until you run out of combinations then move the numbers to the front and start over.

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                    pkfox wrote:

                    your new password is too similar to your existing one

                    I would avoid such sites as they are either storing the plain text or using a really weak encryption - a decent encryption will be very different for similar words.

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                    Deflinek
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                    Not necessary. Most "change password" forms require you to enter old and new password. With both at hand they can check for similarity. Now if reset password form tells you about similarity...RUN! :D

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Simple: put a number on the end, and just increment it by one! :laugh:

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      good idea! :)

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                        your initials in all caps a loved one's initials in lower case a single special character as *, @, etc. month password created i.e. 02 year password was created i.e. 18 I use this for all my work related passwords. this is especially effective for passwords that need to be changed every n-months. the important part is that the password remains the same except for the last 4 digits.

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        good idea! :)

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