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You have coding skills, how're you on stooping?

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  • R raddevus

    Here's a list of Physical Requirements listed in a coding job ad: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kAY7c.png[^] You may be required to stoop up to 10% of the time. I'm also very interested in what I will be doing since I will be required to climb 10% of the time. :rolleyes: Maybe the desks are really high? :~

    Manager (PHB-type)

    I see here in the time tracker that you are low on your weekly stooping. You're going to need to work harder on that because it is going to reflect poorly on your yearly review.

    :laugh: Bonus points for correctly guessing that this is from a gov't job listing. :|

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    Tomaz Stih 0
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    Perhaps it is a mistake. Maybe they really wanted to put stooping to mental requirements, as in "lower one's moral standards so far as to do something reprehensible"?

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      Hey, I got bonus points. In reality, HR and many times management, does not know what a position consists of so they don't ever change the job description. The original position, which could be 30 years old, might had to deal with punch cards, backup tapes, or even print jobs that required some physical activity.

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      raddevus
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      jgakenhe wrote:

      HR and many times management, does not know what a position consists of so they don't ever change the job description

      Yeah, I think you are right on that one. It's all boilerplate text.

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        Perhaps it is a mistake. Maybe they really wanted to put stooping to mental requirements, as in "lower one's moral standards so far as to do something reprehensible"?

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        raddevus
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        Tomaž Štih wrote:

        "lower one's moral standards so far as to do something reprehensible"

        No, no. That's assumed. :laugh:

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        • R raddevus

          Here's a list of Physical Requirements listed in a coding job ad: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kAY7c.png[^] You may be required to stoop up to 10% of the time. I'm also very interested in what I will be doing since I will be required to climb 10% of the time. :rolleyes: Maybe the desks are really high? :~

          Manager (PHB-type)

          I see here in the time tracker that you are low on your weekly stooping. You're going to need to work harder on that because it is going to reflect poorly on your yearly review.

          :laugh: Bonus points for correctly guessing that this is from a gov't job listing. :|

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          Kirk 10389821
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          For the record, up to 10% of your time Stooping could be a lot... I keep imagining walking into a shared office, and the Big Biker Guy says "Boy, you've got a pretty face" and suddenly I realize that Stooping is slang... and that the company health plan covering STDs is NO LONGER a POSITIVE... as the door locks behind me... that 10% number seems like 4hrs a week of getting stooped... I'll PASS... No stooping! None!

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          • R realJSOP

            He doesn't sing it - it's background in the movie. I believe the "artist" that sings it is salt-n-peppa.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            S Douglas
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            I believe the "artist" that sings it is salt-n-peppa.

            So table spices are now artists? I must be behind the times.


            Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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            • R raddevus

              Here's a list of Physical Requirements listed in a coding job ad: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kAY7c.png[^] You may be required to stoop up to 10% of the time. I'm also very interested in what I will be doing since I will be required to climb 10% of the time. :rolleyes: Maybe the desks are really high? :~

              Manager (PHB-type)

              I see here in the time tracker that you are low on your weekly stooping. You're going to need to work harder on that because it is going to reflect poorly on your yearly review.

              :laugh: Bonus points for correctly guessing that this is from a gov't job listing. :|

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              Overtkill
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              Stooping... As in bowing to the Emperor of said company perhaps. :)

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              • R raddevus

                Here's a list of Physical Requirements listed in a coding job ad: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kAY7c.png[^] You may be required to stoop up to 10% of the time. I'm also very interested in what I will be doing since I will be required to climb 10% of the time. :rolleyes: Maybe the desks are really high? :~

                Manager (PHB-type)

                I see here in the time tracker that you are low on your weekly stooping. You're going to need to work harder on that because it is going to reflect poorly on your yearly review.

                :laugh: Bonus points for correctly guessing that this is from a gov't job listing. :|

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                Gary Wheeler
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                This would make sense in my industry, and in fact might actually be less rigorous than required. Our products are commercial ink-jet printing systems, which include large presses. Operators wrangle rolls of paper that weigh several hundred pounds. The press itself has large, heavy components at or above head height. My group writes the software that controls the whole mess. Every so often we get to crawl around the thing trying to figure out why something's not right. In other words, the ability to stoop/kneel/reach/stretch/lift/push/pull might be an appropriate part of the job description for a software developer.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  This would make sense in my industry, and in fact might actually be less rigorous than required. Our products are commercial ink-jet printing systems, which include large presses. Operators wrangle rolls of paper that weigh several hundred pounds. The press itself has large, heavy components at or above head height. My group writes the software that controls the whole mess. Every so often we get to crawl around the thing trying to figure out why something's not right. In other words, the ability to stoop/kneel/reach/stretch/lift/push/pull might be an appropriate part of the job description for a software developer.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  raddevus
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                  That would be difficult because it is such a large state of change. Sitting for days on end, then crawling, stooping, kneeling. Sounds kind of painful. I like the sitting part best. :rolleyes: 75% is a low number for me. :laugh:

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    When I worked at a paper mill, some of the servers were very low on the rack and some server (VAX/VMS) were sitting on the floor in the computer room. So, yes, there was some 'stooping' to physically reach the nodes. One night while on call, a VMS node crashed; I had to call the person who generally maintained them for verbal assistance (he had bypass-surgery and couldn't climb stairs, so was physically unable to help). He directed me in powering down the 'spare' node, physically swapping the hard drives and restarting the 'spare' node as the desired node. All of that work was done while sitting on the computer room floor. So... yes, those can be valid requirements for employment.

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                    NotUnique
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                    Don't you just hate it when thousands of dollars worth of mission-critical equipment are on the floor, and then you go to open the CD drive and an ant colony falls out? Happened to me for the second time in five years last night. Up late with a lot of air cans.

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                      Don't you just hate it when thousands of dollars worth of mission-critical equipment are on the floor, and then you go to open the CD drive and an ant colony falls out? Happened to me for the second time in five years last night. Up late with a lot of air cans.

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                      It was in the paper mill, up a set of stairs, behind the paper machine; the felt on the machine is washed down with kerosene, so a lot of residual kerosene in the air (ants didn't like it). As I understand it (I've been gone from there since late 2011), a new computer room was finally built in the admin building, so that is no longer an issue. But, yes, the lack of planning on locations is sometimes... disturbing.

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                      • S Slacker007

                        Where is the job location, in a cave?

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                        TNCaver
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                        That would be awesome. I do a lot of cave exploration (though I've only been to about 110 unique caves so far), and working in one would be great. And very good exercise. :)

                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                        • R raddevus

                          Here's a list of Physical Requirements listed in a coding job ad: https://i.stack.imgur.com/kAY7c.png[^] You may be required to stoop up to 10% of the time. I'm also very interested in what I will be doing since I will be required to climb 10% of the time. :rolleyes: Maybe the desks are really high? :~

                          Manager (PHB-type)

                          I see here in the time tracker that you are low on your weekly stooping. You're going to need to work harder on that because it is going to reflect poorly on your yearly review.

                          :laugh: Bonus points for correctly guessing that this is from a gov't job listing. :|

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                          TNCaver
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                          I assume all the bending and stooping would be done while bowing and grovelling before the masters.

                          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                          • T TNCaver

                            That would be awesome. I do a lot of cave exploration (though I've only been to about 110 unique caves so far), and working in one would be great. And very good exercise. :)

                            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                            Slacker007
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                            Ah, hence TN (Tennessee?) Caver.

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                              Ah, hence TN (Tennessee?) Caver.

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                              TNCaver
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                              You nailed it.

                              If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                              • T TNCaver

                                You nailed it.

                                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                Slacker007
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                                Any close calls, danger wise? Caving sounds like a great time, however, I get a bit claustrophobic in tight spaces and have a fear of heights, and....I have seen too many movies where bad things happen in caves. :doh:

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                                  Any close calls, danger wise? Caving sounds like a great time, however, I get a bit claustrophobic in tight spaces and have a fear of heights, and....I have seen too many movies where bad things happen in caves. :doh:

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                                  Danger? Sure, a few. There are opportunities to fall off ledges, or someone above you dislodging a large rock that may fall on your head (helmets are highly recommended), or just bumping your head on the ceiling which suddenly got lower while you were paying attention to where you were stepping (again, helmets are highly recommended!), or similar dangers. Common sense and paying attention alleviate most, and some caves and situations are more dangerous than others, but most are pretty tame. I've not yet heard of anyone running into monsters like in the movies, though I've stumbled across a few raccoons who weren't at all happy we were there, and I once found a rattlesnake who had the misfortune of falling into a wet stream cave but who was too cold to protest when we carried him out. I too get a bit claustrophobic when I'm crawling on my belly and I start to feel the ceiling on my back... that's where I say eff it and back out. I have a fear a heights, too, but have managed to learn how to do rope work (travel the nylon highway, as they call it). I don't seem to get as scared when I can't see the bottom where my death awaits. lol

                                  If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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