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London murder rate surpasses New York City rate.

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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Er, yes, but what is your point? That I am a racist? You have no fucking idea do you?

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    A_Griffin
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    The people with "No f***ing idea" are those incapable of looking beneath and beyond the surface of things.

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      The people with "No f***ing idea" are those incapable of looking beneath and beyond the surface of things.

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      Munchies_Matt
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      Ha! And you are accusing me of that?!!?!!

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        I am well aware of that fact, thank you.

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        So that makes you racist and right wing then too. Good, ,at least we established you paint with the same brush. ;P

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        • M Munchies_Matt

          So that makes you racist and right wing then too. Good, ,at least we established you paint with the same brush. ;P

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          NO it doesn't - blimey, clear and logical thinking really isn't your thing, is it? John Stuart Mill was wrong to correct himself when he said

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          I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any hon. Gentleman will question it.

          Conservatives - right-wingers - are stupid. Every single effing one of them.

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            NO it doesn't - blimey, clear and logical thinking really isn't your thing, is it? John Stuart Mill was wrong to correct himself when he said

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            I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any hon. Gentleman will question it.

            Conservatives - right-wingers - are stupid. Every single effing one of them.

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            So you are aware of the fact that the majority of these recent murders is black on black violence, yet when I point it out I am racist, but not you? And you accuse me of bad logic? :laugh: :laugh:

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              So you are aware of the fact that the majority of these recent murders is black on black violence, yet when I point it out I am racist, but not you? And you accuse me of bad logic? :laugh: :laugh:

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              Knowing a fact and attributing it o "culture" are different things. The racism is in your offhand comment, dismissing the violence as just something they do.

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                Knowing a fact and attributing it o "culture" are different things. The racism is in your offhand comment, dismissing the violence as just something they do.

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                You are imagining things. I stated a fact, a fact you know too, yet I am racist for saying it yet you arent. You are full of shit.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  You are imagining things. I stated a fact, a fact you know too, yet I am racist for saying it yet you arent. You are full of shit.

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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  You are full of sh*t.

                  Of course he his. He is totally trolling you.

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                    NO it doesn't - blimey, clear and logical thinking really isn't your thing, is it? John Stuart Mill was wrong to correct himself when he said

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                    I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any hon. Gentleman will question it.

                    Conservatives - right-wingers - are stupid. Every single effing one of them.

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                    Massive generalizations about blacks is racist! Massive generalizations about Muslims is racist! Massive generalization about conservatives is - A-OK with you obviously. And it's conservatives that think Liberals are stupid - Liberals think conservatives are evil! :-D

                    I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                      you would be more like Chicago

                      Which has harsh gun control laws and a radicated organized crime. As New York does. As Italy does. It seems that organized crime and gun bans go very well together... Maybe because it's easy to buy the police but not so easy to buy each and every citizen?

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                      I was going to say they also have multigenerational Democratic city governance but then you went and added Italy. Damn! :laugh:

                      I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                        I was going to say they also have multigenerational Democratic city governance but then you went and added Italy. Damn! :laugh:

                        I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave

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                        Which had organized crime in governance since the beginning :D we're ahead. We already had a psycho wh**emongering old fart friend with dictators as head of government, a pornstar (or more of them), a transexual soubrette and a drug user as House representatives... We used to think Italy was behind USA, I'm starting to think we are the heralds of species involution.

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                        • A A_Griffin

                          Just like racism goes with right-wing "culture".

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                          A_Griffin wrote:

                          racism goes with right-wing

                          IME, racism exists in most cultures, but agree it is taken to the extreme in alt-right.

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                          • A A_Griffin

                            Just like racism goes with right-wing "culture".

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                            I suppose it would be racist of me to list the names of the murder victims so far? Sadiq Mohamed, Abdikarim Hassan, Josef Boci, Seyed Khan, Rotimi Oshibanjo, Promise Nkenda, Sabri Chibani, Lewis Blackman, Hasan Ozcan, Hannah Leonard, Kwabena Nelson, Mark Smith, Bulent Kabala, Saeeda Hussain, Juan Olmos Saca. As the "pub landlord" would say; "Beautiful British name". I suppose it would also be antisemitic of me to state that most victims of the Holocaust were Jewish? What would I be if I said that people who have a different opinion than me are stupid? Idiotic.

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                            • M Munchies_Matt

                              You are imagining things. I stated a fact, a fact you know too, yet I am racist for saying it yet you arent. You are full of shit.

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                              You didn't just state a fact, Matt - you placed an interpretation upon it. If you cannot see the difference, then it just goes to prove what I said about stupidity

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                                I suppose it would be racist of me to list the names of the murder victims so far? Sadiq Mohamed, Abdikarim Hassan, Josef Boci, Seyed Khan, Rotimi Oshibanjo, Promise Nkenda, Sabri Chibani, Lewis Blackman, Hasan Ozcan, Hannah Leonard, Kwabena Nelson, Mark Smith, Bulent Kabala, Saeeda Hussain, Juan Olmos Saca. As the "pub landlord" would say; "Beautiful British name". I suppose it would also be antisemitic of me to state that most victims of the Holocaust were Jewish? What would I be if I said that people who have a different opinion than me are stupid? Idiotic.

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                                Are you as incapable as Matt is of understanding the difference between a fact and an interpretation of that fact? I was not accusing Matt of racism for alluding to the fact that most shootings are within the Black community - this is well-known - but for the meaning he ascribed to it.

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                                  A_Griffin wrote:

                                  racism goes with right-wing

                                  IME, racism exists in most cultures, but agree it is taken to the extreme in alt-right.

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  racism exists in most cultures

                                  Indeed it does. As does conservatism.

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                                  • A A_Griffin

                                    You didn't just state a fact, Matt - you placed an interpretation upon it. If you cannot see the difference, then it just goes to prove what I said about stupidity

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                                    Victims of gang violence in London: victims of gang violence in london - Google Search[^] Ignorance. SOmething you specialise in.

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                                      Victims of gang violence in London: victims of gang violence in london - Google Search[^] Ignorance. SOmething you specialise in.

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                                      F***s Matt I know this. I give up - you are clearly incapable of understanding.

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                                      • A A_Griffin

                                        Are you as incapable as Matt is of understanding the difference between a fact and an interpretation of that fact? I was not accusing Matt of racism for alluding to the fact that most shootings are within the Black community - this is well-known - but for the meaning he ascribed to it.

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                                        What meaning? That most of the victims have been killed due to gang culture? That's also just a fact isn't it? Maybe the reality is that we're just stupid because we disagree with you?

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                                        • K kmoorevs

                                          A_Griffin wrote:

                                          racism goes with right-wing

                                          IME, racism exists in most cultures, but agree it is taken to the extreme in alt-right.

                                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                          Gun control has racist origins. After the civil war, the democrats in congress were worried that blacks would be able to easier exact revenge for being held as slaves if they had access to guns, so the first gun control laws were aimed expressly at them. The KKK was widely regarded as the militant arm of the democratic party. It really baffles me that any person of color would count himself among the ranks of democrats. Historically speaking, racism is more deeply rooted on the left than on the right. Of course, you have to have been taught actual history instead of liberal agenda-driven history re-write in order to understand the history of things.

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