London murder rate surpasses New York City rate.
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DRHuff wrote:
you would be more like Chicago
Which has harsh gun control laws and a radicated organized crime. As New York does. As Italy does. It seems that organized crime and gun bans go very well together... Maybe because it's easy to buy the police but not so easy to buy each and every citizen?
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
I was going to say they also have multigenerational Democratic city governance but then you went and added Italy. Damn! :laugh:
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave
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I was going to say they also have multigenerational Democratic city governance but then you went and added Italy. Damn! :laugh:
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave
Which had organized crime in governance since the beginning :D we're ahead. We already had a psycho wh**emongering old fart friend with dictators as head of government, a pornstar (or more of them), a transexual soubrette and a drug user as House representatives... We used to think Italy was behind USA, I'm starting to think we are the heralds of species involution.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I suppose it would be racist of me to list the names of the murder victims so far? Sadiq Mohamed, Abdikarim Hassan, Josef Boci, Seyed Khan, Rotimi Oshibanjo, Promise Nkenda, Sabri Chibani, Lewis Blackman, Hasan Ozcan, Hannah Leonard, Kwabena Nelson, Mark Smith, Bulent Kabala, Saeeda Hussain, Juan Olmos Saca. As the "pub landlord" would say; "Beautiful British name". I suppose it would also be antisemitic of me to state that most victims of the Holocaust were Jewish? What would I be if I said that people who have a different opinion than me are stupid? Idiotic.
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You are imagining things. I stated a fact, a fact you know too, yet I am racist for saying it yet you arent. You are full of shit.
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I suppose it would be racist of me to list the names of the murder victims so far? Sadiq Mohamed, Abdikarim Hassan, Josef Boci, Seyed Khan, Rotimi Oshibanjo, Promise Nkenda, Sabri Chibani, Lewis Blackman, Hasan Ozcan, Hannah Leonard, Kwabena Nelson, Mark Smith, Bulent Kabala, Saeeda Hussain, Juan Olmos Saca. As the "pub landlord" would say; "Beautiful British name". I suppose it would also be antisemitic of me to state that most victims of the Holocaust were Jewish? What would I be if I said that people who have a different opinion than me are stupid? Idiotic.
Are you as incapable as Matt is of understanding the difference between a fact and an interpretation of that fact? I was not accusing Matt of racism for alluding to the fact that most shootings are within the Black community - this is well-known - but for the meaning he ascribed to it.
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A_Griffin wrote:
racism goes with right-wing
IME, racism exists in most cultures, but agree it is taken to the extreme in alt-right.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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You didn't just state a fact, Matt - you placed an interpretation upon it. If you cannot see the difference, then it just goes to prove what I said about stupidity
Victims of gang violence in London: victims of gang violence in london - Google Search[^] Ignorance. SOmething you specialise in.
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Victims of gang violence in London: victims of gang violence in london - Google Search[^] Ignorance. SOmething you specialise in.
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Are you as incapable as Matt is of understanding the difference between a fact and an interpretation of that fact? I was not accusing Matt of racism for alluding to the fact that most shootings are within the Black community - this is well-known - but for the meaning he ascribed to it.
What meaning? That most of the victims have been killed due to gang culture? That's also just a fact isn't it? Maybe the reality is that we're just stupid because we disagree with you?
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A_Griffin wrote:
racism goes with right-wing
IME, racism exists in most cultures, but agree it is taken to the extreme in alt-right.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Gun control has racist origins. After the civil war, the democrats in congress were worried that blacks would be able to easier exact revenge for being held as slaves if they had access to guns, so the first gun control laws were aimed expressly at them. The KKK was widely regarded as the militant arm of the democratic party. It really baffles me that any person of color would count himself among the ranks of democrats. Historically speaking, racism is more deeply rooted on the left than on the right. Of course, you have to have been taught actual history instead of liberal agenda-driven history re-write in order to understand the history of things.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Understanding what? COme on, tell us what you are so pirvy to that we are so ignorant of? Time to shit or get off the pan. SHow us what you have or look a fool.
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Massive generalizations about blacks is racist! Massive generalizations about Muslims is racist! Massive generalization about conservatives is - A-OK with you obviously. And it's conservatives that think Liberals are stupid - Liberals think conservatives are evil! :-D
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave
Not that I am even conservative. :)
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Not that I am even conservative. :)
I've rarely talked to a European that I would ever consider a conservative. Even your conservatives are to far in the redistributive tank to be called conservative. Although I am fairly conservative (fiscally, not socially) for a Canadian. Most European 'far-right' ("lets call them Nazis so nobody listens to them") parties would fit in as mildly conservative Republicans in the US. (Although they sure wouldn't get along with the evangelicals - but who does?)
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like. Dave
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Understanding what? COme on, tell us what you are so pirvy to that we are so ignorant of? Time to shit or get off the pan. SHow us what you have or look a fool.
I didn't accuse you of ignorance - I accused you of stupidity and racism. How often do I have to keep repeating myself? You clearly cannot grasp the idea that a fact and the interpretation and meaning you give it are two different things. We all agree that the majority of gun deaths are black on black. That is the simple statistical fact. Where we differ is in what we make of it. You just dismiss is as "black gun culture", and I call that a racist attitude. There is no culture of black people killing each other. There is a higher rate of such killings than in the white population, but to call that a "culture" with no care or thought about why there is this discrepancy is racist. And you are racist, Matt - this and other comments you've made in the past make that quite clear. (And no I'm not going to trawl back to find them.)
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I didn't accuse you of ignorance - I accused you of stupidity and racism. How often do I have to keep repeating myself? You clearly cannot grasp the idea that a fact and the interpretation and meaning you give it are two different things. We all agree that the majority of gun deaths are black on black. That is the simple statistical fact. Where we differ is in what we make of it. You just dismiss is as "black gun culture", and I call that a racist attitude. There is no culture of black people killing each other. There is a higher rate of such killings than in the white population, but to call that a "culture" with no care or thought about why there is this discrepancy is racist. And you are racist, Matt - this and other comments you've made in the past make that quite clear. (And no I'm not going to trawl back to find them.)
A_Griffin wrote:
You just dismiss is as "black gun culture"
Why do you assume I dismissed it? I just made a factual statement.
A_Griffin wrote:
to call that a "culture"
Which I didnt... You assume things and then imagine things that a person has said, then accuse them of racism. You are just like that other prick here, Bell, who lurches to assumptions based on what he wants to see rather than the facts.
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Are you as incapable as Matt is of understanding the difference between a fact and an interpretation of that fact? I was not accusing Matt of racism for alluding to the fact that most shootings are within the Black community - this is well-known - but for the meaning he ascribed to it.
I didnt attach any meaning to the fact, you imagined it, because you want to. You want the easy slur of racism. Its a cheap card to play, about as cheap as they get, and says more about you than you think.
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I didnt attach any meaning to the fact, you imagined it, because you want to. You want the easy slur of racism. Its a cheap card to play, about as cheap as they get, and says more about you than you think.
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Oh what an utter child you are! That explains so much about the immaturity of your posts. You accuse me of not looking in depth, yet you got the gun issue completely wrong in your simplistic thinking. Thats just one example.
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Gun control has racist origins. After the civil war, the democrats in congress were worried that blacks would be able to easier exact revenge for being held as slaves if they had access to guns, so the first gun control laws were aimed expressly at them. The KKK was widely regarded as the militant arm of the democratic party. It really baffles me that any person of color would count himself among the ranks of democrats. Historically speaking, racism is more deeply rooted on the left than on the right. Of course, you have to have been taught actual history instead of liberal agenda-driven history re-write in order to understand the history of things.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It really baffles me that any person of color would count himself among the ranks of democrats.
Surely the Democrats have moved somewhat Left of:
George Wallace (Dem):
Let us rise to the call of freedom- loving blood that is in us and send our answer to the tyranny that clanks its chains upon the South. In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny . . . and I say . . . segregation today . . . segregation tomorrow . . . segregation forever.
have they not? After all, they successfully fielded a desegregated Presidential Candidate.
