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    I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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    V. wrote:

    (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does)

    If I recall correctly it affects compatibility with amps. If you have a 250 ohm apparatus on one side and a 500 ohm on the other you would get noise and reduced volume since there would be reactive power on the line (which also creates static or semistatic waves).

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      I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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      OK, use logarithmic pots for volume and for the tone circuit use logarthmic as Pete said, as your hearing is logarithmic, you can very quiet (pin dropping) to very loud (jet take off). The actual values 250K ohms is what Leo Fender used in the bass designs (I would be very supprised if he didn't use them in the Strat & Tele guitars). Actual value is a way of matching impedance, Gibson tended to use split coil humbuckers which needed a 500K to balance the impedance. I would install them to there final position and measure the height and width of the stem sticking out of the body/scratch plate before embarking on the quest to find them. As for the switch Fender used a three way but plays found sticking between position (usually taking a spring out) they could get more tones as the pickups would blend differently. So 5 Way for my view (saves on having to repair switch). Sorry its a bit long but you asked a subject I know some things about! :thumbsup: If you haven't checked it out have a look at Daves World of Fun Stuff on YouTube he's always doing something like that!

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        I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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        I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body.

        Does The Wife like guitar companionship? :-\

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          Peter_in_2780 wrote:

          or antilog, which can be hard to obtain

          Or reverse the wiring

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          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

          Or reverse the wiring

          ... so he can turn it DOWN to 11? ;P

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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            Or reverse the wiring

            ... so he can turn it DOWN to 11? ;P

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            Peter_in_2780 wrote:

            ... so he can turn it DOWN to 11?

            Would that make him nonplussed?

            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              In a parallel universe, of course.

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                In a parallel universe, of course.

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  The potential can vary, but yes.

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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                    Wire it all straight to the jack and rock, rock, rock! Takes all the guesswork out. :thumbsup:

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                      I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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                        I'm basically putting together a new guitar with an old body. I got a combination of Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and Cool Rails and now I'm figuring out the potentiometers. (1 of them has to be push/pull ;) ). The wiring scheme says 250 Ohm, so I got that (though I don't know what the difference 250 vs 500 actually does), but there is also a difference between a logarithmic ("audio") and a linear potentiometer. I read you should use the logarithmic ones since they don't "cut-off" at the end. Is that both for volume and tone (I need 1 volume and 2 tones) ? Any other advice I should take in account for the potentiometers, eg how do you know what knobs will fit on those meters? Any advice on the switch itself (5 way switch)? thanks :-)

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                        Just thought of a soucre for a myrad of knob pot covers. Banggood (https://www.banggood.com/) also a good place for other stuff!

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