How to use source control
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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In TFS you can shelve changes, which is better than branching. Does Git have something similar? I don't know. But your description brought a smile to face. :)
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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I've actually had that situation and resolved it relatively easily with Git. I think Git makes that very easy using the
git checkoutcommand. I'm sure you know that already, but it is quite amazing how you can switch branches in Git so easy. Much easier than Subversion where I would often start working on the change, only to remember later I needed to branch first. -
In TFS you can shelve changes, which is better than branching. Does Git have something similar? I don't know. But your description brought a smile to face. :)
Yep, [git stash](https://git-scm.com/docs/git-stash)
I'd rather be phishing!
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I've actually had that situation and resolved it relatively easily with Git. I think Git makes that very easy using the
git checkoutcommand. I'm sure you know that already, but it is quite amazing how you can switch branches in Git so easy. Much easier than Subversion where I would often start working on the change, only to remember later I needed to branch first."git checkout" just about sums up GIT in a nutshell. It's a wonderfully easy way to do something but it has an utterly non-intuitive and inappropriate name. Sometimes it almost feels like the only naming rule in GIT is "be as obtuse as possible."
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"git checkout" just about sums up GIT in a nutshell. It's a wonderfully easy way to do something but it has an utterly non-intuitive and inappropriate name. Sometimes it almost feels like the only naming rule in GIT is "be as obtuse as possible."
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You're checking out the branch, I don't see the issue with the name? Not that it's an amazing name, many non-Microsoft names do leave a lot to be desired ("Blame" springs to mind), but it's not the worst name either.
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I've actually had that situation and resolved it relatively easily with Git. I think Git makes that very easy using the
git checkoutcommand. I'm sure you know that already, but it is quite amazing how you can switch branches in Git so easy. Much easier than Subversion where I would often start working on the change, only to remember later I needed to branch first.raddevus wrote:
Much easier than Subversion where I would often start working on the change, only to remember later I needed to branch first.
I have a "Clippy" VS add-in that when I start to work on the dev branch it pops up and says "It seems you're working directly on dev, do you need help creating a new branch first?" I don't, that was a joke. I so wish it wasn't though.
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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"git checkout" just about sums up GIT in a nutshell. It's a wonderfully easy way to do something but it has an utterly non-intuitive and inappropriate name. Sometimes it almost feels like the only naming rule in GIT is "be as obtuse as possible."
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PeejayAdams wrote:
It's a wonderfully easy way to do something but it has an utterly non-intuitive and inappropriate name.
Yes, I totally agree with that. The name of that command is completely non-intuitive to the level of stupidity. edit I guess that could be because I used subversion for so long where you : branch switch which seems somewhat intuitive. However, Git is so far superior to subversion I am willing to put up with bad naming. :)
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raddevus wrote:
Much easier than Subversion where I would often start working on the change, only to remember later I needed to branch first.
I have a "Clippy" VS add-in that when I start to work on the dev branch it pops up and says "It seems you're working directly on dev, do you need help creating a new branch first?" I don't, that was a joke. I so wish it wasn't though.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
I don't, that was a joke. I so wish it wasn't though
Haha, while I was reading the first part, I was like..."Does this person really have something that runs and does that type of thing? Amazing." Good thing you told me you don't because I was really believing it. Probably because I want that too. It's such a pain when you forget to branch first.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
There is a shelf-feature in VS
Yes, and a stash (not sure if that's the git equivalent though) but nobody uses it.
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If it's git you are working with I can recommend SourceTree, it makes doing most git things way easier (for me at least) than the command line.
Jacquers wrote:
If it's git you are working with I can recommend SourceTree,
TFS. And it's not the technology that is the issue, it's the workflow that people said I should use when I asked the question, how do you handle working on A when a bug request comes in for B? And the reason I asked was, sadly, I was afraid the answer was as described.
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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I had a gent tell me he had 5 years of SVN experience. I said, great... Then please start using branches and get off the main branch. He replied... "I've never done branching"... to which I said... "then you have about 30 minutes of SVN experience, repeatedly, over 5 years!" He eventually said... "Wow, I wish I would have known about branches before..." ROTFLMAO!
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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You need to roll your own so it does what you want and you know how to use it.
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PeejayAdams wrote:
It's a wonderfully easy way to do something but it has an utterly non-intuitive and inappropriate name.
Yes, I totally agree with that. The name of that command is completely non-intuitive to the level of stupidity. edit I guess that could be because I used subversion for so long where you : branch switch which seems somewhat intuitive. However, Git is so far superior to subversion I am willing to put up with bad naming. :)
Yes, I guess I'm also still a little bit stuck in a Subversion and Mercurial mind-set.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
- Check out the dev branch.
- Start working on a new feature
- You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding.
- Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature.* Revert your local branch back to the master version* Fix the bug.
- Check in the change.
- Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature.* Manually add back in the bug fix.* Keep working on the feature.
Way easier :-\
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NOT. 1. Check out the dev branch. 2. Start working on a new feature 3. You're asked to fix a bug on the same project not related to the feature you're adding. 4. Manually copy the code to somewhere else that you've been working on for the new feature. 5. Revert your local branch back to the master version 6. Fix the bug. 7. Check in the change. 8. Manually copy back the code that you were working on for the new feature. 9. Manually add back in the bug fix. 10. Keep working on the feature. Yes, this is actually what I was told as "how to do it" because branching can get too complicated. :laugh: :rolleyes: :sigh:
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I work contract, so I have worked with a bunch of different source control systems. By far the easiest has been TFS, and it has gotten better with the years. Issues I have found with other systems: 1) Shelf Set does not exist, and this is so easy to fix bugs in your system, so partial check-ins, etc 2) It seems impossible to have two versions on your system at one time, so cannot easily work on two features at once, and cannot get somebody else's version and do whatever you need with it. 3) The only way to get (git) you code updated when somebody else has posted changes is to commit your changes. I have not yet found a product that works better with Visual Studio than TFS, and find it amazing that all these companies continue to use crappy source control which they even pay for, which significantly impact developer productivity...typical penny wise pound foolish or maybe just plain foolish.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
There is a shelf-feature in VS
Yes, and a stash (not sure if that's the git equivalent though) but nobody uses it.
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Jacquers wrote:
If it's git you are working with I can recommend SourceTree,
TFS. And it's not the technology that is the issue, it's the workflow that people said I should use when I asked the question, how do you handle working on A when a bug request comes in for B? And the reason I asked was, sadly, I was afraid the answer was as described.
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Yes...TFS seems to be the best. Not sure about relative front end cost, but the only reason I can see to justify using something else is if it is free, and even then it is probably a stupid move.
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In TFS you can shelve changes, which is better than branching. Does Git have something similar? I don't know. But your description brought a smile to face. :)
When using git, there is no reason not to branch. Besides, I commit every 15 minutes or so while working, so can't just stash (git equiv. to shelve) and work on something else. Just make a branch (takes about 10 seconds or less) and fix it there. Merging is generally not an issue in git (I have only had one merge conflict in the last month on a team of 7 devs and used to have many in TFS).
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When using git, there is no reason not to branch. Besides, I commit every 15 minutes or so while working, so can't just stash (git equiv. to shelve) and work on something else. Just make a branch (takes about 10 seconds or less) and fix it there. Merging is generally not an issue in git (I have only had one merge conflict in the last month on a team of 7 devs and used to have many in TFS).
Merge conflicts usually only occur if the same file was worked on by more than one person, prior to check in/merge. We do our best not to let this happen, and "that" is what controls merge conflicts, not the software.