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Why (western) humans use the decimal system?

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    Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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      Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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      That's a sexist remark! :)

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        That's a sexist remark! :)

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        :-O Ok let us use the toes :-O :-O :-O

        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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          Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?

          But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested... :laugh: Probably, "because it works" - the Babylonians used sexagesimal, which is somewhat unwieldy; the Egyptians were decimal; some native American tribes used pental; Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers; the Gauls and the Mayans were vigesimal (and this can still be seen in how the French count between 60 and 100) Probably, we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

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            0x01AA wrote:

            Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?

            But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested... :laugh: Probably, "because it works" - the Babylonians used sexagesimal, which is somewhat unwieldy; the Egyptians were decimal; some native American tribes used pental; Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers; the Gauls and the Mayans were vigesimal (and this can still be seen in how the French count between 60 and 100) Probably, we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

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            Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers

            So even he forgot about the Zero :-D [Edit] To be honest I don't understand :-O , sorry :-O :-O :doh:

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            But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested..

            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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              Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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              We have X fingers!

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                We have X fingers!

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Holy water on you :laugh:

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  0x01AA wrote:

                  Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?

                  But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested... :laugh: Probably, "because it works" - the Babylonians used sexagesimal, which is somewhat unwieldy; the Egyptians were decimal; some native American tribes used pental; Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers; the Gauls and the Mayans were vigesimal (and this can still be seen in how the French count between 60 and 100) Probably, we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

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                  i am an amateur student of ancient trade routes:

                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

                  Roman Numerals are a non-positional notation, and incorporate base #5, as well as base #10. Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions: [^] I'd give credit for the adoption of the modern positional base #10 decimal system in Europe to the Arab world via ancient Indian, and other, sources: [^].

                  «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                    i am an amateur student of ancient trade routes:

                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    we have the Roman empire to blame: they brought their culture - and decimal-based numbering system - to most of Europe, and it stuck.

                    Roman Numerals are a non-positional notation, and incorporate base #5, as well as base #10. Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions: [^] I'd give credit for the adoption of the modern positional base #10 decimal system in Europe to the Arab world via ancient Indian, and other, sources: [^].

                    «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                    Holy ... whatever, can you please explain what you are discussing about in "my" thread :laugh:

                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                      Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                      strange you are all, fingers have 8

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                        Aristotle favoured ten as we have ten fingers

                        So even he forgot about the Zero :-D [Edit] To be honest I don't understand :-O , sorry :-O :-O :doh:

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                        But then you couldn't teach kids about numbers bigger than ten without being arrested..

                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                        Well, he was an alcoholic! Bruce's Song[^]

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                          Holy ... whatever, can you please explain what you are discussing about in "my" thread :laugh:

                          It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                          Roman Numerals are a non-positional notation

                          Roman numbers don't depend for value on their relative distance from the decimal point like ours does: they had different markers for Ten, Fifty, Hundred, and so on (until they needed really big numbers, when they started using bars over the number which multiplied it by 1000).

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                          incorporate base #5, as well as base #10

                          They used a kinda composite system , which used both base five (V, L, D) as well as base ten (X, C, M). Division in roman numbers was ... um ... interesting. whi8ch might have been why they used abaci (though we have no idea if they invented it or teh Chinese, they both used very similar devices).

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                          Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions

                          I didn't know that!

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                            Well, he was an alcoholic! Bruce's Song[^]

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                            Of course now I'm absolutely clear about it :laugh: :wtf: :laugh:

                            It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                              strange you are all, fingers have 8

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                              public class Finger
                              {
                              ...
                              }
                              public class Thumb : Finger
                              {
                              ...
                              }

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                                Is it really because we have ten fingers? Would it then not be more logical to use then a system based on 11?:confused: :laugh: Btw: I'm Aware, it took a longer time to recognize that "Zero" also exists. From what I remember it was somebody from India who recognized this fact first. [Edit] Try to imagine we would have only one finger...

                                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                0x01AA wrote:

                                Is it really because we have ten fingers?

                                That's it, I guess, a sane application of the KISS principle (crazy people like Boole, found simpler counting with the arms).

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                                  0x01AA wrote:

                                  Is it really because we have ten fingers?

                                  That's it, I guess, a sane application of the KISS principle (crazy people like Boole, found simpler counting with the arms).

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                                  I know about another bool System, especally invented by (hu)man ;P :laugh: (I agree this is more soapbox now, sorry...)

                                  It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                    Quote:

                                    Roman Numerals are a non-positional notation

                                    Roman numbers don't depend for value on their relative distance from the decimal point like ours does: they had different markers for Ten, Fifty, Hundred, and so on (until they needed really big numbers, when they started using bars over the number which multiplied it by 1000).

                                    Quote:

                                    incorporate base #5, as well as base #10

                                    They used a kinda composite system , which used both base five (V, L, D) as well as base ten (X, C, M). Division in roman numbers was ... um ... interesting. whi8ch might have been why they used abaci (though we have no idea if they invented it or teh Chinese, they both used very similar devices).

                                    Quote:

                                    Romans used a duo-decimal system for fractions

                                    I didn't know that!

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                                    Everything clear now, at least after I a take two or three pints :laugh:

                                    It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      I know about another bool System, especally invented by (hu)man ;P :laugh: (I agree this is more soapbox now, sorry...)

                                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                      Quote:

                                      I know about another bool System

                                      Boob system, we call it.

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                                        Holy ... whatever, can you please explain what you are discussing about in "my" thread :laugh:

                                        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                                        0x01AA wrote:

                                        explain what you are discussing

                                        Re-read the title of your post, then re-read the links in my post. If you're still confused, don't feel you need to tell me :)

                                        «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          public class Finger
                                          {
                                          ...
                                          }
                                          public class Thumb : Finger
                                          {
                                          ...
                                          }

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                                          Fingers eight Yoda has.

                                          Ad astra - both ways!

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