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  • R raddevus

    Alan Burkhart wrote:

    I only noticed it because the word is so overused in TNG and DS9, usually as a derogatory slang.

    Interesting. I watched a lot of TNG. Was "targ" planted there in the subconscious somehow? What other things do I know that I do not know about? :laugh: :laugh:

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    I might be getting the TV shows and the novels mixed up. :-D

    Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.

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    • R raddevus

      ...so he says,

      "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

      You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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      Wasn't Einstein the same one to say "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"?

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      • R raddevus

        Alan Burkhart wrote:

        I only noticed it because the word is so overused in TNG and DS9, usually as a derogatory slang.

        Interesting. I watched a lot of TNG. Was "targ" planted there in the subconscious somehow? What other things do I know that I do not know about? :laugh: :laugh:

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        Then you probably also never heard of Toby the targ[^]

        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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        • R raddevus

          ...so he says,

          "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

          You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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          Sander Rossel
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          I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar like he says? :confused: I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna. I mean, the guy's a genius and you're just rude :~

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            I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar like he says? :confused: I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna. I mean, the guy's a genius and you're just rude :~

            Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            Sander Rossel wrote:

            I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna.

            Perhaps, if you happen to be Jabba the Hutt. And now you should say something like 'Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!'

            I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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            • R raddevus

              ...so he says,

              "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

              You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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              Or, you know, acknowledge the fact that he claims a need for the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar. Write it down, along with the general context of the conversation, and research the variations of myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar before assessing the value of the need. If it turns out to be redundant in your own assessment, reconvene on a later date with the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar as requested and a working alternative addressing your own concerns. With both options present, have an objective cost/benefit analysis, and pick the best one together. If he defends the objectively worst option based on an emotional claim, you stab him with a knife.

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna.

                Perhaps, if you happen to be Jabba the Hutt. And now you should say something like 'Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!'

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!

                  Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  So it was you who actually went to see that movie. Obligatory cat picture[^]

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)?

                    No. It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life!

                    raddevus wrote:

                    2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly.

                    The message can wait. It is not smart to figure out what someone is trying to say while they are having a stroke.

                    raddevus wrote:

                    Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

                    I'll bet you he didn't survive that lecture whilst having a stroke, you genius.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life

                    I hope I never have a stroke when you're around. [Edit]I hope I never have a stroke[/edit] Seriously, if someone has a stroke, do not electrocute them.

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life

                      I hope I never have a stroke when you're around. [Edit]I hope I never have a stroke[/edit] Seriously, if someone has a stroke, do not electrocute them.

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                      You mean I shouldn't try to save you? :-\

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      • R raddevus

                        ...so he says,

                        "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

                        You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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                        Einstein:

                        Imagination is more important than knowledge

                        Is this why I can't imagine why some things just don't work the way they are supposed to? Now the phrase "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar." makes much more sense, it is a string of muttered expletives. I do this all the time.

                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                        • R raddevus

                          ...so he says,

                          "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

                          You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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                          CodeZombie62
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                          raddevus wrote:

                          "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

                          To which I will reply in the words of "Weird Al" Yankovic: "It's unintel-ligible I just can't get it through my skull It's hard to bargle nawdle zouss(?) With all these marbles in my mouth" - Smells Like Nirvana

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                            Wasn't Einstein the same one to say "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"?

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                            I think he was and I only used Einstein as the example genius because so many people know him. This story is really about the self-styled Einsteins who believe they are geniuses. :laugh:

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar like he says? :confused: I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna. I mean, the guy's a genius and you're just rude :~

                              Best, Sander Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                              raddevus
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                              You've transcended!! Genius!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                Or, you know, acknowledge the fact that he claims a need for the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar. Write it down, along with the general context of the conversation, and research the variations of myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar before assessing the value of the need. If it turns out to be redundant in your own assessment, reconvene on a later date with the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar as requested and a working alternative addressing your own concerns. With both options present, have an objective cost/benefit analysis, and pick the best one together. If he defends the objectively worst option based on an emotional claim, you stab him with a knife.

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                                raddevus
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                                A reasoned and balanced approach. :laugh: :laugh:

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                                • R raddevus

                                  ...so he says,

                                  "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

                                  You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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                                  It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia, or both. Aphasia[^] is a common result after a transient ischemic attack (TIA)[^] or cerebrovascular accident (CVA)[^], more commonly known as stroke. Unfortunately I'm intimately familiar with this concept, as Mrs. Wife had two strokes a few years ago :(.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia, or both. Aphasia[^] is a common result after a transient ischemic attack (TIA)[^] or cerebrovascular accident (CVA)[^], more commonly known as stroke. Unfortunately I'm intimately familiar with this concept, as Mrs. Wife had two strokes a few years ago :(.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    raddevus
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                                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                    It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia,

                                    That's really interesting and another good possibility. Another poster mentioned that Einstein must surely be having a stroke. Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error. The Internet was supposed to fix this. :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia,

                                      That's really interesting and another good possibility. Another poster mentioned that Einstein must surely be having a stroke. Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error. The Internet was supposed to fix this. :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      raddevus wrote:

                                      Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error.

                                      Interestingly, my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech. She knows the words she wants to use, she just can't remember how to say them some times.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        ...so he says,

                                        "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*

                                        You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.

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                                        Interestingly enough, I have developed a theory base for this "use case"/situation... It's called Triality Theory and it posits three levels of consciousness... The point is that when you're at a higher level of consciousness/understanding/perception others at lower levels cannot gnarsh/understand/see. Getting from one level to another is a difficult chore/adventure/odyssey... The problem isn't so much as the higher consciousness person getting mad/frustrated/etc but rather the need to develop a common ground so that they meet together and can elevate the lower to the higher level. This has been an historic problem throughout human history. And it is very prevalent in software and software development. Think of you standing high up the side of a mountain...What all can you see? A lot! Now think of a person standing at the base of the mountain, and enshrouded in fog...What can he/she see? Not as much. Now, think of how you can possibly explain your magnificent vista to the lower elevation view person who sees mostly fog? How do you do this? And think about how long it took you to trek up the side of the mountain to your present vantage point. Now think about the guy/gal up above you, much higher up the mountain...What can they see? And what can they see that you cannot? And how much higher you have to trek up the mountain to get to gnarsh/understand/see their view/viewpoint/perspective/understanding? Triality Theory explains this all and how to move upwards efficiently between levels. I am still writing the book but should be finished with it by the end of this year. I have yet to put a website up...It's on my list of things to do. If you are interested in this, just contact me. If there is interest on specifically how to apply this to software and software dev I'd be happy to consider a series of articles here on Code Project to start explaining. - Cary Grant Anderson Note to Future Historians: I think that this was the first mention of Triality Theory on the web...

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                                          raddevus wrote:

                                          Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error.

                                          Interestingly, my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech. She knows the words she wants to use, she just can't remember how to say them some times.

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                          my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech

                                          When done correctly, writing is the superior form of communication. IMO. I'd rather read a good book on a subject than watch video in most cases. PluralSight is really good, but most of the time I have to crank up the speed the presenter speaks at. With books I can flip through until I find the part I want. :)

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