Albert Einstein needs you to do something...
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I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar like he says? :confused: I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna. I mean, the guy's a genius and you're just rude :~
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna.
Perhaps, if you happen to be Jabba the Hutt. And now you should say something like 'Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!'
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
Or, you know, acknowledge the fact that he claims a need for the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar. Write it down, along with the general context of the conversation, and research the variations of myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar before assessing the value of the need. If it turns out to be redundant in your own assessment, reconvene on a later date with the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar as requested and a working alternative addressing your own concerns. With both options present, have an objective cost/benefit analysis, and pick the best one together. If he defends the objectively worst option based on an emotional claim, you stab him with a knife.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna.
Perhaps, if you happen to be Jabba the Hutt. And now you should say something like 'Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!'
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!
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Bring me Solo! And the Wookiee!
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So it was you who actually went to see that movie. Obligatory cat picture[^]
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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raddevus wrote:
1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)?
No. It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life!
raddevus wrote:
2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly.
The message can wait. It is not smart to figure out what someone is trying to say while they are having a stroke.
raddevus wrote:
Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
I'll bet you he didn't survive that lecture whilst having a stroke, you genius.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life
I hope I never have a stroke when you're around. [Edit]I hope I never have a stroke[/edit] Seriously, if someone has a stroke, do not electrocute them.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
It sounds like he is having a stroke. Someone help me electrocute Einstein to save his life
I hope I never have a stroke when you're around. [Edit]I hope I never have a stroke[/edit] Seriously, if someone has a stroke, do not electrocute them.
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
Einstein:
Imagination is more important than knowledge
Is this why I can't imagine why some things just don't work the way they are supposed to? Now the phrase "I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar." makes much more sense, it is a string of muttered expletives. I do this all the time.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
raddevus wrote:
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
To which I will reply in the words of "Weird Al" Yankovic: "It's unintel-ligible I just can't get it through my skull It's hard to bargle nawdle zouss(?) With all these marbles in my mouth" - Smells Like Nirvana
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Wasn't Einstein the same one to say "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"?
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I don't get it. Why wouldn't you just myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar like he says? :confused: I think the proper response would be gobble da undink raba shuna. I mean, the guy's a genius and you're just rude :~
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Or, you know, acknowledge the fact that he claims a need for the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar. Write it down, along with the general context of the conversation, and research the variations of myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar before assessing the value of the need. If it turns out to be redundant in your own assessment, reconvene on a later date with the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar as requested and a working alternative addressing your own concerns. With both options present, have an objective cost/benefit analysis, and pick the best one together. If he defends the objectively worst option based on an emotional claim, you stab him with a knife.
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia, or both. Aphasia[^] is a common result after a transient ischemic attack (TIA)[^] or cerebrovascular accident (CVA)[^], more commonly known as stroke. Unfortunately I'm intimately familiar with this concept, as Mrs. Wife had two strokes a few years ago :(.
Software Zen:
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It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia, or both. Aphasia[^] is a common result after a transient ischemic attack (TIA)[^] or cerebrovascular accident (CVA)[^], more commonly known as stroke. Unfortunately I'm intimately familiar with this concept, as Mrs. Wife had two strokes a few years ago :(.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia,
That's really interesting and another good possibility. Another poster mentioned that Einstein must surely be having a stroke. Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error. The Internet was supposed to fix this. :laugh: :laugh:
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
It's also possible that Einstein has developed expressive aphasia, you have developed impressive aphasia,
That's really interesting and another good possibility. Another poster mentioned that Einstein must surely be having a stroke. Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error. The Internet was supposed to fix this. :laugh: :laugh:
raddevus wrote:
Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error.
Interestingly, my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech. She knows the words she wants to use, she just can't remember how to say them some times.
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
Interestingly enough, I have developed a theory base for this "use case"/situation... It's called Triality Theory and it posits three levels of consciousness... The point is that when you're at a higher level of consciousness/understanding/perception others at lower levels cannot gnarsh/understand/see. Getting from one level to another is a difficult chore/adventure/odyssey... The problem isn't so much as the higher consciousness person getting mad/frustrated/etc but rather the need to develop a common ground so that they meet together and can elevate the lower to the higher level. This has been an historic problem throughout human history. And it is very prevalent in software and software development. Think of you standing high up the side of a mountain...What all can you see? A lot! Now think of a person standing at the base of the mountain, and enshrouded in fog...What can he/she see? Not as much. Now, think of how you can possibly explain your magnificent vista to the lower elevation view person who sees mostly fog? How do you do this? And think about how long it took you to trek up the side of the mountain to your present vantage point. Now think about the guy/gal up above you, much higher up the mountain...What can they see? And what can they see that you cannot? And how much higher you have to trek up the mountain to get to gnarsh/understand/see their view/viewpoint/perspective/understanding? Triality Theory explains this all and how to move upwards efficiently between levels. I am still writing the book but should be finished with it by the end of this year. I have yet to put a website up...It's on my list of things to do. If you are interested in this, just contact me. If there is interest on specifically how to apply this to software and software dev I'd be happy to consider a series of articles here on Code Project to start explaining. - Cary Grant Anderson Note to Future Historians: I think that this was the first mention of Triality Theory on the web...
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raddevus wrote:
Communication between two people is wrought with difficulty and prone to error.
Interestingly, my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech. She knows the words she wants to use, she just can't remember how to say them some times.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
my wife's written speech (in the form of Facebook posts) is quite a bit more 'fluent' than her spoken speech
When done correctly, writing is the superior form of communication. IMO. I'd rather read a good book on a subject than watch video in most cases. PluralSight is really good, but most of the time I have to crank up the speed the presenter speaks at. With books I can flip through until I find the part I want. :)
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Interestingly enough, I have developed a theory base for this "use case"/situation... It's called Triality Theory and it posits three levels of consciousness... The point is that when you're at a higher level of consciousness/understanding/perception others at lower levels cannot gnarsh/understand/see. Getting from one level to another is a difficult chore/adventure/odyssey... The problem isn't so much as the higher consciousness person getting mad/frustrated/etc but rather the need to develop a common ground so that they meet together and can elevate the lower to the higher level. This has been an historic problem throughout human history. And it is very prevalent in software and software development. Think of you standing high up the side of a mountain...What all can you see? A lot! Now think of a person standing at the base of the mountain, and enshrouded in fog...What can he/she see? Not as much. Now, think of how you can possibly explain your magnificent vista to the lower elevation view person who sees mostly fog? How do you do this? And think about how long it took you to trek up the side of the mountain to your present vantage point. Now think about the guy/gal up above you, much higher up the mountain...What can they see? And what can they see that you cannot? And how much higher you have to trek up the mountain to get to gnarsh/understand/see their view/viewpoint/perspective/understanding? Triality Theory explains this all and how to move upwards efficiently between levels. I am still writing the book but should be finished with it by the end of this year. I have yet to put a website up...It's on my list of things to do. If you are interested in this, just contact me. If there is interest on specifically how to apply this to software and software dev I'd be happy to consider a series of articles here on Code Project to start explaining. - Cary Grant Anderson Note to Future Historians: I think that this was the first mention of Triality Theory on the web...
Really interesting post. So much I agree with.
C Grant Anderson wrote:
it is very prevalent in software and software development
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: It reminded me of reading the great book, Amazon.com: Thinking, Fast and Slow eBook: Daniel Kahneman: Kindle Store[^] Definitely post your link here and absolutely let me know when you've finished the book. I am very interested. :thumbsup:
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
So, You assume that he knows what his audience knows... Without previous interactions? I say this because as an intelligent person who understands complex topics, including some of the quantum mechanics, etc... I can tell you that WITHOUT interrogating your audience, it is NEAR impossible to know what they understand on any given topic. To this day, I meet people who don't know what "Calculus" means (assuming it is math related, as opposed to the generic definition as used in the Calculus of Set Theory). One of the proofs that a Generic Proofing Algorithm cannot be written literally says "Because either the machine will have to assume too little, and therefore cannot solve complex proofs over its horizon, or it will assume too much, and will get caught in loops that don't get to the solution"... That sentence was garbled to me... And as a receiver of a message, I have a DUTY to let the sender know that it was not understood. Human interactions are full of this. Walk up to someone and start talking to them in a foreign language. You will instantly be greeted by visual clues that they don't understand. Also, don't confuse genius in ANY ONE area with the ability to communicate effectively. They are two separate skills. You don't expect the worlds strongest man competitors to know Concentric Geometries, nor do you expect math geniuses to know the effects of carbohydrate starvation/loading on a body builders physique... Finally, the adaptability of the English language, in particular, is such that any complex field develops it's own Jargon. Try asking someone who has barely used a computer if they know if that is a PC or a MAC and if it has a CD-ROM or USB boot option in the BIOS. Then ask yourself how many of those "words" would have utterly confused Einstein himself? therefore, he must not be a genius, or the inquisitor must not be intelligent?
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...so he says,
"I need the myxl targ plinkle gop to onkatik shoosilfar."*
You are confused. You don't understand. He stares at you. *This sentence may not make sense because it is nonsense. Or it may not make sense because you cannot understand the Genius Principles it contains. The Questions 1. Is the only reason that you do not understand because you are stupid (not smart enough)? 2. Or, is it possible that you don't understand because Einstein is stupid (not smart enough)? How could it ever be the case that Einstein is stupid? He is a genius, right? Well, there are at least four reasons that it may be that even though Einstein is a genius that he is stupid in this case. 1. He cannot communicate clearly what it is that he wants. Even if Einstein understands the extended principles of Quantum Mechanics if he cannot explain them in a way that that someone can understand then he is not a genius. A bit more on that -- Imagine if no one except Einstein ever understood Quantum Physics as he understood it. The world wouldn't have changed. He would've been a babbling idiot. 2. He cannot communicate what he wants to _you_. He is not smart enough (even though he's a genius) to understand how smart you are and alter his message accordingly. 3 He's confounded about why you cannot understand. He cannot tell that he is not communicating clearly to you. "Why don't you understand! It's as plain as the quark on a proton, lepton-brain!" A blind-spot (aka ignorance). 4. You are not actually smart enough to understand, but he has chosen to tell someone this message without identifying the audience in the first place. Not genius-level behavior. Two Points -- (I'm sure there are many more) Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate. Even if you're a Genius, you better know how to communicate to your audience.
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So, You assume that he knows what his audience knows... Without previous interactions? I say this because as an intelligent person who understands complex topics, including some of the quantum mechanics, etc... I can tell you that WITHOUT interrogating your audience, it is NEAR impossible to know what they understand on any given topic. To this day, I meet people who don't know what "Calculus" means (assuming it is math related, as opposed to the generic definition as used in the Calculus of Set Theory). One of the proofs that a Generic Proofing Algorithm cannot be written literally says "Because either the machine will have to assume too little, and therefore cannot solve complex proofs over its horizon, or it will assume too much, and will get caught in loops that don't get to the solution"... That sentence was garbled to me... And as a receiver of a message, I have a DUTY to let the sender know that it was not understood. Human interactions are full of this. Walk up to someone and start talking to them in a foreign language. You will instantly be greeted by visual clues that they don't understand. Also, don't confuse genius in ANY ONE area with the ability to communicate effectively. They are two separate skills. You don't expect the worlds strongest man competitors to know Concentric Geometries, nor do you expect math geniuses to know the effects of carbohydrate starvation/loading on a body builders physique... Finally, the adaptability of the English language, in particular, is such that any complex field develops it's own Jargon. Try asking someone who has barely used a computer if they know if that is a PC or a MAC and if it has a CD-ROM or USB boot option in the BIOS. Then ask yourself how many of those "words" would have utterly confused Einstein himself? therefore, he must not be a genius, or the inquisitor must not be intelligent?
All very good points. This is about the self-styled Geniuses who say their thing and then say, "You see that I'm right about this? Of course, I have explained this thoroughly and clearly? Any idiot would understand what I'm saying because I've made it so plain? Everyone else will find it to be genius and clear and perfect and right so I'm sure you see it the same way, right?" At this point the inquisitor has the choice to fight like crazy or nod her head, hum a little tune and go on her way. And, because of history the inquisitor knows that even if she explains the challenges to the genius solution then the Genius will simple wave his hands and say, "no, no. that is not a problem at all. Anyone can see as plain as day that those things will never happen." La-la-la-do-ti-do-la (nodding head, humming tune, walking away) :rolleyes:
