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  • C Chris C B

    … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    Not sure, but it may help: sketchometry[^]

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      Not sure, but it may help: sketchometry[^]

      "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

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      Chris C B
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      Thanks for that - it looks useful, but I need something that I can import Excel or CSV data into. I have a LOT of data! :sigh:

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      • C Chris C B

        … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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        I'd use matplotlib and numpy/pandas in the python world. numpy is a lower level high performance array structure. pandas is a higher level data frame structure built on top of numpy matplotlib is a graphing library that will take data frames and render a huge variety of visualisations. Use an IDE like spyder and it's all quite easy and interactive. And all free.

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        • C Chris C B

          … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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          Not free, but enough if it is a one-shot : imc FAMOS - data analysis framework - productive testing[^]

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • C Chris C B

            … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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            I use the pirates favorite... R[^] RStudio is nice IDE envirionment for R that makes it easier to use. You can import and export Excel and csv file easily. and there are plenty of support communities where you can find how-tos and examples. RStudio – Open source and enterprise-ready professional software for R[^] [Edit] - And it's open source.

            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              I'd use matplotlib and numpy/pandas in the python world. numpy is a lower level high performance array structure. pandas is a higher level data frame structure built on top of numpy matplotlib is a graphing library that will take data frames and render a huge variety of visualisations. Use an IDE like spyder and it's all quite easy and interactive. And all free.

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              Chris C B
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              Thanks, but that's a bit like reinventing the wheel. I just have this bunch of data and need to display it in a graph outside the application, as a once-off. I was a bit gobsmacked that Excel couldn't do it. Somewhere there has to be something where you establish the X and Y axes of the graph from the max and min of the data, and then plot all the X,Y points from the dataset. The data collection points on the X axis are non-linear, but I need to display them along a linear X axis.

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                I use the pirates favorite... R[^] RStudio is nice IDE envirionment for R that makes it easier to use. You can import and export Excel and csv file easily. and there are plenty of support communities where you can find how-tos and examples. RStudio – Open source and enterprise-ready professional software for R[^] [Edit] - And it's open source.

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                Thanks, but I really, realy, realy do not want to write one more line of code just to display the data just one time.

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                • C Chris C B

                  Thanks, but I really, realy, realy do not want to write one more line of code just to display the data just one time.

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                  So, what your really, realy, realy looking for is some CODZ PLZ URGNTZZ? :laugh:

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    So, what your really, realy, realy looking for is some CODZ PLZ URGNTZZ? :laugh:

                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    Chris C B
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                    Nah! I don't need no CODZ PLZ URGNTZZ. Don't really like the stuff. I am actually having poached salmon in a lemon sauce tonight. :laugh:

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                    • C Chris C B

                      Nah! I don't need no CODZ PLZ URGNTZZ. Don't really like the stuff. I am actually having poached salmon in a lemon sauce tonight. :laugh:

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                      Is that with real lemons?

                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                      • C Chris C B

                        … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                        I just plugged two sets of random numbers into Excel (2013) and produced a proper scatter plot. I followed these steps to get the trend line: trendline example. Is your data set too big for Excel?

                        if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }

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                          Is that with real lemons?

                          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                          Chris C B
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                          Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

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                            Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

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                            S Houghtelin
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                            Chris C-B wrote:

                            Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

                            :laugh: plus if you're grilling, you get the added bonus of that flame thrower touch of excitement, the kids will love it!

                            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            • C Chris C B

                              … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                              Kirill Illenseer
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                              Scilab seems like the way to go. Several of my scientific co-workers use that for dealing with data sets doing all kinds of stuffs that physics does with data, including non-linear axes.

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                              • C Chris C B

                                … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                You could have a look at GNUplot, it certainly meets your requirement for free.

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                                • C Chris C B

                                  … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                  Pete Kelley
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                                  I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm wondering if you could give some usable example data?(rigged-up or otherwise) I certainly recognize that this simple need has arisen more times than I can remember. It's time to dabble in tool-building. This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading. Great to have some of the suggestions - checking out GNUPlot and some of the free-or-inexpensive options.

                                  Pete K.

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                                  • C Chris C B

                                    Thanks, but I really, realy, realy do not want to write one more line of code just to display the data just one time.

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                                    So, how was the salmon? ;) Anyway I got 'yer Codez. It's like 6 lines of code.

                                    # Install & Load Library
                                    if (!require("readxl")) install.packages("readxl")
                                    library("readxl")

                                    Choose & Read Excel file, the 2 denotes the desired sheet number.

                                    my_data <- read_excel(file.choose(), 2)

                                    Extract data from the desired columns. RStudio will provide drop-down with column names.

                                    Ydata <- my_data$Column_With_Ydata
                                    Xdata <- my_data$Column_With_Xdata

                                    Plot data

                                    plot(Ydata, Xdata)

                                    As with any code you can get as fancy as you want, but for a one time look see...

                                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                    • C Chris C B

                                      … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                      mngerhold
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                                      At the risk of sounding dumb, I can't see the problem - what are 'non-linear X values' ? You can't just mean they are at unequal X-intervals, because surely that is trivial, even for Excel?

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                                      • C Chris C B

                                        … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                        cmkrnl
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                                        I found ZedGraph maybe 10 years ago, and have driven it with C# for countless graphing needs since then.

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                                        • C Chris C B

                                          … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                          jcmaida
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                                          convert non-linear to linear via log base 10, base 2, etc.

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