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  • C Chris C B

    Nah! I don't need no CODZ PLZ URGNTZZ. Don't really like the stuff. I am actually having poached salmon in a lemon sauce tonight. :laugh:

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    S Houghtelin
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    Is that with real lemons?

    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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    • C Chris C B

      … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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      Foothill
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      I just plugged two sets of random numbers into Excel (2013) and produced a proper scatter plot. I followed these steps to get the trend line: trendline example. Is your data set too big for Excel?

      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }

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        Is that with real lemons?

        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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        Chris C B
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        Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

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        • C Chris C B

          Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

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          S Houghtelin
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          Chris C-B wrote:

          Nah! Furniture polish - it's cheaper.

          :laugh: plus if you're grilling, you get the added bonus of that flame thrower touch of excitement, the kids will love it!

          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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          • C Chris C B

            … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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            Kirill Illenseer
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            Scilab seems like the way to go. Several of my scientific co-workers use that for dealing with data sets doing all kinds of stuffs that physics does with data, including non-linear axes.

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            • C Chris C B

              … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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              Lost User
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              You could have a look at GNUplot, it certainly meets your requirement for free.

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              • C Chris C B

                … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                Pete Kelley
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                I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm wondering if you could give some usable example data?(rigged-up or otherwise) I certainly recognize that this simple need has arisen more times than I can remember. It's time to dabble in tool-building. This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading. Great to have some of the suggestions - checking out GNUPlot and some of the free-or-inexpensive options.

                Pete K.

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                • C Chris C B

                  Thanks, but I really, realy, realy do not want to write one more line of code just to display the data just one time.

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                  So, how was the salmon? ;) Anyway I got 'yer Codez. It's like 6 lines of code.

                  # Install & Load Library
                  if (!require("readxl")) install.packages("readxl")
                  library("readxl")

                  Choose & Read Excel file, the 2 denotes the desired sheet number.

                  my_data <- read_excel(file.choose(), 2)

                  Extract data from the desired columns. RStudio will provide drop-down with column names.

                  Ydata <- my_data$Column_With_Ydata
                  Xdata <- my_data$Column_With_Xdata

                  Plot data

                  plot(Ydata, Xdata)

                  As with any code you can get as fancy as you want, but for a one time look see...

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                  • C Chris C B

                    … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                    mngerhold
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                    At the risk of sounding dumb, I can't see the problem - what are 'non-linear X values' ? You can't just mean they are at unequal X-intervals, because surely that is trivial, even for Excel?

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                    • C Chris C B

                      … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                      cmkrnl
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                      I found ZedGraph maybe 10 years ago, and have driven it with C# for countless graphing needs since then.

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                      • C Chris C B

                        … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                        jcmaida
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                        convert non-linear to linear via log base 10, base 2, etc.

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                        • C Chris C B

                          Thanks for that - it looks useful, but I need something that I can import Excel or CSV data into. I have a LOT of data! :sigh:

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                          thewazz
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                          Add that info to your OP.

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                          • F Foothill

                            I just plugged two sets of random numbers into Excel (2013) and produced a proper scatter plot. I followed these steps to get the trend line: trendline example. Is your data set too big for Excel?

                            if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }

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                            Chris C B
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                            The scatter graph works fine for X-Y points, but the data collection points are equally spaced on the graph, where they are, in fact, non-linear to the point of being random. They are closely spaced at the start of the X-axis, becoming sparser further along - but they are essentially just points where data had been collected, and adhere to no mathematically defined function. I want to impose a linear X-axis, say from 0 to 100, and have the graph points plotted along that linear axis. If I just use the X-Y data in a plot, then the X-axis is divided into equidistant points for the X value and the Y value plotted above it. If I add a third column of data to represent the X-axis, Excel accepts it but then draws two graphs, one for the X values and one for the Y values. If it were not for the 11,000 odd data points, I would use a piece of graph paper...

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                            • K Kirill Illenseer

                              Scilab seems like the way to go. Several of my scientific co-workers use that for dealing with data sets doing all kinds of stuffs that physics does with data, including non-linear axes.

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                              Chris C B
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                              Thanks, I will check it out.

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                                You could have a look at GNUplot, it certainly meets your requirement for free.

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                                Chris C B
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                                Having just Bingled that, it looks like it could be a winner - thanks.

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                                • P Pete Kelley

                                  I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm wondering if you could give some usable example data?(rigged-up or otherwise) I certainly recognize that this simple need has arisen more times than I can remember. It's time to dabble in tool-building. This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading. Great to have some of the suggestions - checking out GNUPlot and some of the free-or-inexpensive options.

                                  Pete K.

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                                  Chris C B
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                                  Pete Kelley wrote:

                                  This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading.

                                  'Twas always thus! In fact, although I said I didn't want to write a line of code, I am now thinking of writing an add-on for access to solve precisely this problem.

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                                  • M mngerhold

                                    At the risk of sounding dumb, I can't see the problem - what are 'non-linear X values' ? You can't just mean they are at unequal X-intervals, because surely that is trivial, even for Excel?

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                                    Chris C B
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                                    See my reply to Foothill above. If you know of how it can be done, I would love to hear about it.

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                                    • J jcmaida

                                      convert non-linear to linear via log base 10, base 2, etc.

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                                      Chris C B
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                                      Regrettably, although the X data points are non-linear, they are not non-linear in a predictable way, rather a random spacing, more densely pack at the root of the X-axis.

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                                      • S S Houghtelin

                                        So, how was the salmon? ;) Anyway I got 'yer Codez. It's like 6 lines of code.

                                        # Install & Load Library
                                        if (!require("readxl")) install.packages("readxl")
                                        library("readxl")

                                        Choose & Read Excel file, the 2 denotes the desired sheet number.

                                        my_data <- read_excel(file.choose(), 2)

                                        Extract data from the desired columns. RStudio will provide drop-down with column names.

                                        Ydata <- my_data$Column_With_Ydata
                                        Xdata <- my_data$Column_With_Xdata

                                        Plot data

                                        plot(Ydata, Xdata)

                                        As with any code you can get as fancy as you want, but for a one time look see...

                                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                        Chris C B
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                                        The salmon was exquisite, thanks for asking. Served with fresh asparagus and pasta shells, and accompanied with ice-cold Löwenbräu. If my coding were as good as my cooking, I would be richer than Bill Gates! :laugh: As for the rest of it, thanks, but I have decided to write an add-on to Excel to fix this problem, as I seem to recall having suffered from it before.

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                                        • C Chris C B

                                          … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                                          Chris C B
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                                          My apologies to those who replied yesterday, but did not get an answer. We currently have the builders in, converting my old office in the stables into a self-contained flat, and what with shopping in IKEA, making tea for the builders, making sure they were following my plans, and visiting a couple of clients, the day just disappeared.

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