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  • C Chris C B

    … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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    Pete Kelley
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    I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm wondering if you could give some usable example data?(rigged-up or otherwise) I certainly recognize that this simple need has arisen more times than I can remember. It's time to dabble in tool-building. This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading. Great to have some of the suggestions - checking out GNUPlot and some of the free-or-inexpensive options.

    Pete K.

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    • C Chris C B

      Thanks, but I really, realy, realy do not want to write one more line of code just to display the data just one time.

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      S Houghtelin
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      So, how was the salmon? ;) Anyway I got 'yer Codez. It's like 6 lines of code.

      # Install & Load Library
      if (!require("readxl")) install.packages("readxl")
      library("readxl")

      Choose & Read Excel file, the 2 denotes the desired sheet number.

      my_data <- read_excel(file.choose(), 2)

      Extract data from the desired columns. RStudio will provide drop-down with column names.

      Ydata <- my_data$Column_With_Ydata
      Xdata <- my_data$Column_With_Xdata

      Plot data

      plot(Ydata, Xdata)

      As with any code you can get as fancy as you want, but for a one time look see...

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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      • C Chris C B

        … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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        mngerhold
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        At the risk of sounding dumb, I can't see the problem - what are 'non-linear X values' ? You can't just mean they are at unequal X-intervals, because surely that is trivial, even for Excel?

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        • C Chris C B

          … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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          cmkrnl
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          I found ZedGraph maybe 10 years ago, and have driven it with C# for countless graphing needs since then.

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          • C Chris C B

            … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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            jcmaida
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            convert non-linear to linear via log base 10, base 2, etc.

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            • C Chris C B

              Thanks for that - it looks useful, but I need something that I can import Excel or CSV data into. I have a LOT of data! :sigh:

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              thewazz
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              Add that info to your OP.

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              • F Foothill

                I just plugged two sets of random numbers into Excel (2013) and produced a proper scatter plot. I followed these steps to get the trend line: trendline example. Is your data set too big for Excel?

                if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }

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                Chris C B
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                The scatter graph works fine for X-Y points, but the data collection points are equally spaced on the graph, where they are, in fact, non-linear to the point of being random. They are closely spaced at the start of the X-axis, becoming sparser further along - but they are essentially just points where data had been collected, and adhere to no mathematically defined function. I want to impose a linear X-axis, say from 0 to 100, and have the graph points plotted along that linear axis. If I just use the X-Y data in a plot, then the X-axis is divided into equidistant points for the X value and the Y value plotted above it. If I add a third column of data to represent the X-axis, Excel accepts it but then draws two graphs, one for the X values and one for the Y values. If it were not for the 11,000 odd data points, I would use a piece of graph paper...

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                • K Kirill Illenseer

                  Scilab seems like the way to go. Several of my scientific co-workers use that for dealing with data sets doing all kinds of stuffs that physics does with data, including non-linear axes.

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                  Chris C B
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                  Thanks, I will check it out.

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                  • L Lost User

                    You could have a look at GNUplot, it certainly meets your requirement for free.

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                    Chris C B
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                    Having just Bingled that, it looks like it could be a winner - thanks.

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                    • P Pete Kelley

                      I don't have a solution to offer, but I'm wondering if you could give some usable example data?(rigged-up or otherwise) I certainly recognize that this simple need has arisen more times than I can remember. It's time to dabble in tool-building. This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading. Great to have some of the suggestions - checking out GNUPlot and some of the free-or-inexpensive options.

                      Pete K.

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                      Chris C B
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                      Pete Kelley wrote:

                      This kind of issue is a lot like when I only want to make a simple chicken-scratch sketch using old-school Paint but the system I happen to be using only has a major drawing program that takes too-long/forever to load up. Or I just want to type a sentence and a bloated word processor starts loading.

                      'Twas always thus! In fact, although I said I didn't want to write a line of code, I am now thinking of writing an add-on for access to solve precisely this problem.

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                      • M mngerhold

                        At the risk of sounding dumb, I can't see the problem - what are 'non-linear X values' ? You can't just mean they are at unequal X-intervals, because surely that is trivial, even for Excel?

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                        Chris C B
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                        See my reply to Foothill above. If you know of how it can be done, I would love to hear about it.

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                        • J jcmaida

                          convert non-linear to linear via log base 10, base 2, etc.

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                          Chris C B
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                          Regrettably, although the X data points are non-linear, they are not non-linear in a predictable way, rather a random spacing, more densely pack at the root of the X-axis.

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                          • S S Houghtelin

                            So, how was the salmon? ;) Anyway I got 'yer Codez. It's like 6 lines of code.

                            # Install & Load Library
                            if (!require("readxl")) install.packages("readxl")
                            library("readxl")

                            Choose & Read Excel file, the 2 denotes the desired sheet number.

                            my_data <- read_excel(file.choose(), 2)

                            Extract data from the desired columns. RStudio will provide drop-down with column names.

                            Ydata <- my_data$Column_With_Ydata
                            Xdata <- my_data$Column_With_Xdata

                            Plot data

                            plot(Ydata, Xdata)

                            As with any code you can get as fancy as you want, but for a one time look see...

                            It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                            Chris C B
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                            The salmon was exquisite, thanks for asking. Served with fresh asparagus and pasta shells, and accompanied with ice-cold Löwenbräu. If my coding were as good as my cooking, I would be richer than Bill Gates! :laugh: As for the rest of it, thanks, but I have decided to write an add-on to Excel to fix this problem, as I seem to recall having suffered from it before.

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                            • C Chris C B

                              … preferably free, but cheap is good too. All I want to do is set up an X axis, set up a Y axis, and plot a line-scatter graph. It seems Excel can't do this with non-linear X values on a linear X axis - or I can't coerce it to do so. Either way, I have given up struggling with it, to the point where I am prepared to drop some valuable beer vouchers on the problem. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very glad to hear them.

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                              Chris C B
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                              My apologies to those who replied yesterday, but did not get an answer. We currently have the builders in, converting my old office in the stables into a self-contained flat, and what with shopping in IKEA, making tea for the builders, making sure they were following my plans, and visiting a couple of clients, the day just disappeared.

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                              • C Chris C B

                                See my reply to Foothill above. If you know of how it can be done, I would love to hear about it.

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                                mngerhold
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                                I must be being dumb. I read your reply above, could not visualise it. Although the chance of my being able to help is slim, could you post a scan of a scribbled hand plot to illustrate?

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