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Great News! VB6 support likely to continue into Windows 12

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  • Z ZurdoDev

    CHill60 wrote:

    VB6 was expensive.

    How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    Nish Nishant
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    VB6 was never free as far as I can remember. You could either buy it as part of Visual Studio (including VC++) or you could buy it standalone (not sure if that was earlier versions though).

    Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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    • Z ZurdoDev

      CHill60 wrote:

      VB6 was expensive.

      How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      CHill60
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      Only the hooky versions were free :laugh: You had to buy a licence for the IDE - per user OR corporate

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      • N Nathan Minier

        I'm not positive that the chisel had been developed yet. VB6 wasn't up to that job.

        "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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        dandy72
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        Nathan Minier wrote:

        I'm not positive that the chisel had bee developed yet.

        That's right. Back then you were expected to use your forehead against that stone tablet instead.

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        • N Nish Nishant

          I can see how large legacy VB6 code-bases would continue to be retained as-is, because re-writing it into a managed framework is a huge ask. What I don't get it why new code would ever get written in VB6, with the lack of support, limited availability of engineers who've used it, etc.

          Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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          dandy72
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          If VB6 is truly unsupported at this point, then you just need one serious-enough exploit in the runtime to end its use. OTOH: - See Windows XP - You'd hope those systems still in production and relying on it aren't connected to the internet in any way, shape or form - mitigating that problem - Aren't store apps supposed to be running in a completely sandboxed environment? OTOH (yeah, that'd be a third hand I guess): - Despite all this, I have no doubt there's plenty of VB6 exploits being abused right now, and will continue for the foreseeable future

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            If VB6 is truly unsupported at this point, then you just need one serious-enough exploit in the runtime to end its use. OTOH: - See Windows XP - You'd hope those systems still in production and relying on it aren't connected to the internet in any way, shape or form - mitigating that problem - Aren't store apps supposed to be running in a completely sandboxed environment? OTOH (yeah, that'd be a third hand I guess): - Despite all this, I have no doubt there's plenty of VB6 exploits being abused right now, and will continue for the foreseeable future

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            Nish Nishant
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            The extent of damage would be minimal since VB6 is mostly used for desktop UI apps.

            Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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            • L Lost User

              alang_icon wrote:

              I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions.

              No, it doesn't, and no you don't. VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              Chris Maunder
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              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent

              You take that back!!

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              • N Nish Nishant

                The extent of damage would be minimal since VB6 is mostly used for desktop UI apps.

                Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                dandy72
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                Doesn't matter what the app is used for, if you can crash an app and control the return address, you have a way to run any native code of your choosing.

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                  Doesn't matter what the app is used for, if you can crash an app and control the return address, you have a way to run any native code of your choosing.

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Yeah, on an end user's desktop. Minimal damage.

                  Nish Nishant Consultant Software Architect Ganymede Software Solutions LLC www.ganymedesoftwaresolutions.com

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent

                    You take that back!!

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Lost User
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                    Aight, then, it is "resting". Monty Python - Dead Parrot - YouTube[^]

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Aight, then, it is "resting". Monty Python - Dead Parrot - YouTube[^]

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      Pining for the fjords, I assume?

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      • A alang_icon

                        Haven't used VB6 in years. I have seen some appalling stuff written in it (functions called "UseThisOne", "ThisOneWorks" (it didn't) and "Fred2" (wonder what happened to Fred1 ?) together with your own personal favourite lots of "Resume Next" etc).

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                        alang_icon wrote:

                        I have seen some appalling stuff written in it

                        You have a language that you haven't seen appalling stuff written in?

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                        • J jschell

                          alang_icon wrote:

                          I have seen some appalling stuff written in it

                          You have a language that you haven't seen appalling stuff written in?

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                          alang_icon
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                          Yes - APL. That could just be because I wouldn't know what appalling APL code looks like (or perhaps ALL APL looks appalling) :)

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                          • A alang_icon

                            Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                            VB6 just got an important boost from Microsoft blogger Scott Hanselman. In his post (bit.ly/2rcPD0f), Hanselman shows how to configure a VB6 app to be hosted in the Windows 10 Store, using the Microsoft Desktop Bridge infrastructure and tools (bit.ly/2HFVzcc). That’s huge, as hosting an app in the store means that Microsoft is at least somewhat vouching for its compatibility and content. Potential purchasers perceive it as sort of a Good Computing Seal™

                            Real programmers rejoice!

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                            Dan Neely
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                            alang_icon wrote:

                            Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere.

                            have you tried looking in the soapbox or weird and wonderful? That's where this story would belong. /trollface

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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