So Florence was a bit of a flop then
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It is the almost vampiresque glee with which the media, and other agencies, over hype these events which I am getting at.
Yeah, and they are over-hyped for the reasons of safety and preparedness. Going the other way results in more people dying from these events. Seriously, go read a book about hurricane deaths and forecasting.
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Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."
Tell that to the 17 people who died
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Take it to the soapbox and I will reply properly.
Why would I stoop to your level? Seems rather pointless to me. I asked you to please stop, and that's all I intend to do. Please stop.
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Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."
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Tell that to the 17 people who died
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Turns out it was barely a hurricane: Hurricane Florence, Culmination of Exploitation of Natural Events by Government, Extremists, and Business | Watts Up With That?[^] "By Wednesday evening they already downgraded Florence from a Category 4 to a Category 2, and it came ashore barely as a Category 1. In fact, it was amusing to see how long they continued to report it with wind speeds of 75 mph because if it was 74 mph, it was no longer a hurricane. NOAA control the wind speed determinations with their estimates from one or two flights above the hurricane from which, using models they estimate surface speed. We know these are consistently higher than reality, but a higher speed allows for a higher hurricane category and greater media attention."
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Why would I stoop to your level? Seems rather pointless to me. I asked you to please stop, and that's all I intend to do. Please stop.
You assumed I 'deny' global warming. If you want a sensible discussion about I will gladly oblige, if all you want is childish insults then dont bother.
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We know it is devastating, why do you keep posting these sad stories?
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Yes, it is devastating.
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You assumed I 'deny' global warming. If you want a sensible discussion about I will gladly oblige, if all you want is childish insults then dont bother.
Again, please stop talking about global warming in these forums. You do not want a discussion - you simply want to espouse your point of view, and I no longer care to see your endless trolling on the subject. So, "Please!"
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Again, please stop talking about global warming in these forums. You do not want a discussion - you simply want to espouse your point of view, and I no longer care to see your endless trolling on the subject. So, "Please!"
you: "please stop talking about global warming in these forums" you earlier: "their denial of global warming" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Like I said, take it to the soapbox.
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Tell that to the 17 people who died
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Pretty sure the devastated families aren't going to care about media hype!
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Yeah, and they are over-hyped for the reasons of safety and preparedness. Going the other way results in more people dying from these events. Seriously, go read a book about hurricane deaths and forecasting.
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Dave KreskowiakI suggest that if the residents hadn't thought 'oh, it isnt so bad after all' when the media hype fizzled away they would be better prepared for the flooding. It is very easy to breed complacency with fake news. Complacency kills. I take it you have heard the phrase, crying wolf?
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Turns out they have recieved over 30 inches of rain in some places. (Swansboro, N.C.) And guess what, it's usually not the wind that kills. And BTW, you should probably keep posting in the soapbox.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
meteorologists were predicting those rainfall totals as early as last Monday. and they were right on. and the widespread evacuation orders, based on those accurate predictions, likely saved many lives.
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you: "please stop talking about global warming in these forums" you earlier: "their denial of global warming" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Like I said, take it to the soapbox.
I've said my piece, and I know your views on global warming (manmade you disagree with, natural causes you buy). I'm not interested in another rehash. Goodbye.
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We know it is devastating, why do you keep posting these sad stories?
Because of your original title?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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meteorologists were predicting those rainfall totals as early as last Monday. and they were right on. and the widespread evacuation orders, based on those accurate predictions, likely saved many lives.
Have some acquaintances up in Charlotte, who are doing fine, so I've been checking out weather.gov and I have to say I'm amazed at the level of detail available. Turns out there are a lot of records for flood levels that has gotten broken. With many not reported while the equipment has broken, due to the flooding. My country don't have catastrophes, if a thing like that happened here we would get pushed back a century.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I've said my piece, and I know your views on global warming (manmade you disagree with, natural causes you buy). I'm not interested in another rehash. Goodbye.
David O'Neil wrote:
manmade you disagree with
Wrong. Take it to the soap box and I will enlighten you. Or are you scared of the science? :)
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Because of your original title?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Well read what I meant by the title rather than jumping to conclusions.
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I suggest that if the residents hadn't thought 'oh, it isnt so bad after all' when the media hype fizzled away they would be better prepared for the flooding. It is very easy to breed complacency with fake news. Complacency kills. I take it you have heard the phrase, crying wolf?
Fake news is utter lies and bullshit. "Crying wolf" is also a bad analogy as the forecasts and warning goes out days ahead of time based on the information available at the time. When evac orders were issued, the hurricane was forecast to come ashore as a Cat 4. There was no indication of anything affecting the strength of the system at the time. Only after people were being evacuated did more information come to light that affected the forecast and reduced the hurricanes strength. That's the problem with people who call out, "oh this is just another Cry Wolf". Those people don't think about when evac orders are issued, they are BASED ON ALL INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. So, yeah, to you, it's "crying wolf". To me, it's "better safe than sorry". Or have you not heard of that one?
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