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Win10 Strikes again: More Bad (new) UI/UX

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  • N Nathan Minier

    Users like you are why I have to jump through hoops to patch legacy apps rather than modernizing the codebase. Thanks :p

    "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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    raddevus
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    Nathan Minier wrote:

    rather than modernizing the codebase.

    :) Really though I don't mind the modernizing if it is done properly. And I don't mind it if it is done completely so I am not stuck halfway in both worlds. As a matter of fact, I think everyone should shift away from Windows Forms. Those old controls just look too...uh...old. :)

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      dandy72 wrote:

      Pin the Control Panel applet right on the taskbar.

      Good answer... ...but...WHINE ====> I already have so many other things pinned!!! :sigh: WHINE :laugh:

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      dandy72
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      Get a 4K monitor. :-) I'm currently counting 19 items on the taskbar (excluding the Cortana and Task View icons), and it's not even using one third of the available width.

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      • L Lutoslaw

        *A friend or whoever comes to a visit* - Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI? - Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah... Navigating new-old Win 10 UI reminds me this comic: xkcd: Troubleshooting[^]

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        dandy72
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        Jacek Gajek wrote:

        *A friend or whoever comes to a visit* - Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI? - Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah...

        I've solved that problem with a PowerShell script. Sorry about the formatting - it insists on pasting it that way.

        $output = netsh wlan show profiles
        $profiles = @()

        foreach ( $line in $output )
        {
        $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
        if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
        $afterColon = $line.Substring( $index + 2 )
        if ( $afterColon.Trim() -ne "" ) { $profiles += $afterColon }
        }

        $profilesWithPasswords = @()
        foreach ( $profile in $profiles | Sort-Object )
        {
        $output = netsh wlan show profiles "$profile" key=clear
        $pwd = ""
        $authentication = ""

        foreach ( $line in $output )
        {
            $index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Authentication" )
            if ( $index -ne -1 )
            {
                $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
                if ( $index -eq -1 ) { $authentication = "" }
                else { $authentication = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ) }
                continue
            }
        
            $index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Key Content" )
            if ( $index -ne -1 )
            {
                $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
                if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
        
                $pwd = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ).Trim()
                continue
            }
        }
        if ( $pwd -eq "" )
        {
            if ( $authentication -ne "Open" ) { $pwd = "" }
            #else { $pwd = "" }
        }
        $profilesWithPasswords += New-Object -TypeName PSObject -Prop ( @{ 'Profile'=$profile; 'Password'=$pwd } )
        

        }
        Write-Host "Found $($profilesWithPasswords.Count) wifi profiles:"
        $profilesWithPasswords | Format-Table Profile, Password

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        • D dandy72

          Get a 4K monitor. :-) I'm currently counting 19 items on the taskbar (excluding the Cortana and Task View icons), and it's not even using one third of the available width.

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          raddevus
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          dandy72 wrote:

          and it's not even using one third of the available width.

          ...width?? Oh, wait, you have the taskbar at the bottom (horizontal). That's old school. Mine's on the left side (vertical). It makes sense if you think about it since screens are so wide now. I've made a lot of converts to this new TaskBar Vertical Way. If you try it for a few minutes, you'll change too. :rolleyes: Now, I've planted the idea you can't not try it. :laugh: And, yes, at work I have two screens and it is on the left side of my right screen and it works great. It's right there in the middle of the desktop. :thumbsup: What can I say, I'm amazingly innovative. :-\ :laugh:

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            dandy72 wrote:

            and it's not even using one third of the available width.

            ...width?? Oh, wait, you have the taskbar at the bottom (horizontal). That's old school. Mine's on the left side (vertical). It makes sense if you think about it since screens are so wide now. I've made a lot of converts to this new TaskBar Vertical Way. If you try it for a few minutes, you'll change too. :rolleyes: Now, I've planted the idea you can't not try it. :laugh: And, yes, at work I have two screens and it is on the left side of my right screen and it works great. It's right there in the middle of the desktop. :thumbsup: What can I say, I'm amazingly innovative. :-\ :laugh:

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            dandy72
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            Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor. FWIW, I've used vertical taskbars for a good while, years ago. I'm somewhat ambivalent; I can take it or leave it. One of my secondary monitors is arranged vertically (1200x1920)--even though it's great for long web pages or coding windows (which benefit from being taller than wide), a vertical taskbar is definitely a non-starter on *that* monitor, as you're already left with very little space horizontally. And I *hate* auto-collapsing taskbars, so I'm not even going there.

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            • D dandy72

              Jacek Gajek wrote:

              *A friend or whoever comes to a visit* - Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI? - Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah...

              I've solved that problem with a PowerShell script. Sorry about the formatting - it insists on pasting it that way.

              $output = netsh wlan show profiles
              $profiles = @()

              foreach ( $line in $output )
              {
              $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
              if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
              $afterColon = $line.Substring( $index + 2 )
              if ( $afterColon.Trim() -ne "" ) { $profiles += $afterColon }
              }

              $profilesWithPasswords = @()
              foreach ( $profile in $profiles | Sort-Object )
              {
              $output = netsh wlan show profiles "$profile" key=clear
              $pwd = ""
              $authentication = ""

              foreach ( $line in $output )
              {
                  $index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Authentication" )
                  if ( $index -ne -1 )
                  {
                      $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
                      if ( $index -eq -1 ) { $authentication = "" }
                      else { $authentication = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ) }
                      continue
                  }
              
                  $index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Key Content" )
                  if ( $index -ne -1 )
                  {
                      $index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
                      if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
              
                      $pwd = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ).Trim()
                      continue
                  }
              }
              if ( $pwd -eq "" )
              {
                  if ( $authentication -ne "Open" ) { $pwd = "" }
                  #else { $pwd = "" }
              }
              $profilesWithPasswords += New-Object -TypeName PSObject -Prop ( @{ 'Profile'=$profile; 'Password'=$pwd } )
              

              }
              Write-Host "Found $($profilesWithPasswords.Count) wifi profiles:"
              $profilesWithPasswords | Format-Table Profile, Password

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              Lutoslaw
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              #39

              ...seriously? Not saying that I know every XKCD comic, but I totally do... and that solution reminds another one: xkcd: Command Line Fu[^]

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              • L Lutoslaw

                ...seriously? Not saying that I know every XKCD comic, but I totally do... and that solution reminds another one: xkcd: Command Line Fu[^]

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                dandy72
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                #40

                Well, I don't know of any way, with the UI, to show *all* passwords for *all* Wi-Fi profiles that the system has *ever* connected to. So the script has other uses.

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                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                  So allow me to introduce the Apple Pencil - Apple[^]

                  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I know. My son has an iPad that he uses for notes at college and it really works for him but when I saw that he had purchased a stylus I was like screaming, "Steve Jobs killed my stylus and now they're back?!?!!!!! No way!!!" Remember how Jobs ranted against the stylus saying no one wanted to use them. Arghghghgggg!!!!

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                  S Douglas
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                  Had to kill them off so they could invent them! :laugh:


                  Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                  • L Lutoslaw

                    *A friend or whoever comes to a visit* - Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI? - Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah... Navigating new-old Win 10 UI reminds me this comic: xkcd: Troubleshooting[^]

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                    S Douglas
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    A dialog\App off screen is the one that pisses me off. :mad: Even more so when the {win} + {Arrow} key combo don't work.


                    Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                    • D dandy72

                      Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor. FWIW, I've used vertical taskbars for a good while, years ago. I'm somewhat ambivalent; I can take it or leave it. One of my secondary monitors is arranged vertically (1200x1920)--even though it's great for long web pages or coding windows (which benefit from being taller than wide), a vertical taskbar is definitely a non-starter on *that* monitor, as you're already left with very little space horizontally. And I *hate* auto-collapsing taskbars, so I'm not even going there.

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                      raddevus
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                      #43

                      dandy72 wrote:

                      Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor.

                      :thumbsup: It's all good. I was just kidding about horizontal being old school of course. :)

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                        Had to kill them off so they could invent them! :laugh:


                        Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                        raddevus
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                        #44

                        S Douglas wrote:

                        Had to kill them off so they could invent them

                        So true!! :laugh:

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                        • raddevusR raddevus

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor.

                          :thumbsup: It's all good. I was just kidding about horizontal being old school of course. :)

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                          dandy72
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                          ...but I *am* old-school. :-)

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                          • D dandy72

                            ...but I *am* old-school. :-)

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                            raddevus
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                            #46

                            dandy72 wrote:

                            ...but I am old-school

                            :thumbsup: Genuine LOL! Me too. :)

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