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  • S Super Lloyd

    Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

    public class FooDto
    {
    public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
    // ....
    public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
    }
    // ....
    class MyFooClass
    {
    private T1 property1;
    // ....
    private T24 property24;

    public FooDto ToDto()
    {
        return new FooDto()
        {
            Property1 = property1,
            //....
            Property24 = property24,
        };
    }
    

    }

    how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

    public class FooDto
    {
    public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
    {
    Property1 = value1;
    // .....
    Property24 = value24;
    }

    public T1 Property1 { get; }
    // ....
    public T24 Property24 { get; }
    }
    // ....
    class MyFooClass
    {
    private T1 property1;
    // ....
    private T24 property24;

    public FooDto ToDto()
    {
        return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
    }
    

    }

    In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    #11

    Really blow his mind. Make the constructor accept a Tuple instead.

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    • S Super Lloyd

      Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

      public class FooDto
      {
      public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
      // ....
      public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
      }
      // ....
      class MyFooClass
      {
      private T1 property1;
      // ....
      private T24 property24;

      public FooDto ToDto()
      {
          return new FooDto()
          {
              Property1 = property1,
              //....
              Property24 = property24,
          };
      }
      

      }

      how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

      public class FooDto
      {
      public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
      {
      Property1 = value1;
      // .....
      Property24 = value24;
      }

      public T1 Property1 { get; }
      // ....
      public T24 Property24 { get; }
      }
      // ....
      class MyFooClass
      {
      private T1 property1;
      // ....
      private T24 property24;

      public FooDto ToDto()
      {
          return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
      }
      

      }

      In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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      Nathan Minier
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      Super Lloyd wrote:

      In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values.

      Yeah, initialization does not inherently mean useful values, so why force lazy coders to initialize meaningless values?

      var dto = new FooDto(actualT1Val,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null);

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      • N Nathan Minier

        Super Lloyd wrote:

        In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values.

        Yeah, initialization does not inherently mean useful values, so why force lazy coders to initialize meaningless values?

        var dto = new FooDto(actualT1Val,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null);

        "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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        Super Lloyd
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        :laugh:

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        • N Nathan Minier

          Super Lloyd wrote:

          In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values.

          Yeah, initialization does not inherently mean useful values, so why force lazy coders to initialize meaningless values?

          var dto = new FooDto(actualT1Val,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null);

          "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor

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          Super Lloyd
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          I think I might add a couple of unit test just like that, for giggle... :laugh:

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Really blow his mind. Make the constructor accept a Tuple instead.

            This space for rent

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            Super Lloyd
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            that's a good one! :D in fact it might the easiest way how to go about it.. by that I mean I can implement that with some quick copy paste... whereas implementing the constructor is going to be manually intensive and bug prone! :~

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            • S Super Lloyd

              Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

              public class FooDto
              {
              public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
              // ....
              public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
              }
              // ....
              class MyFooClass
              {
              private T1 property1;
              // ....
              private T24 property24;

              public FooDto ToDto()
              {
                  return new FooDto()
                  {
                      Property1 = property1,
                      //....
                      Property24 = property24,
                  };
              }
              

              }

              how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

              public class FooDto
              {
              public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
              {
              Property1 = value1;
              // .....
              Property24 = value24;
              }

              public T1 Property1 { get; }
              // ....
              public T24 Property24 { get; }
              }
              // ....
              class MyFooClass
              {
              private T1 property1;
              // ....
              private T24 property24;

              public FooDto ToDto()
              {
                  return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
              }
              

              }

              In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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              MadMyche
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              I don't mind either option, but I think I like v1 better. When it comes to long lists of assignments I generally copy/paste back and forth with an instance of Excel.


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              • S Super Lloyd

                Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                public class FooDto
                {
                public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                // ....
                public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                }
                // ....
                class MyFooClass
                {
                private T1 property1;
                // ....
                private T24 property24;

                public FooDto ToDto()
                {
                    return new FooDto()
                    {
                        Property1 = property1,
                        //....
                        Property24 = property24,
                    };
                }
                

                }

                how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                public class FooDto
                {
                public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                {
                Property1 = value1;
                // .....
                Property24 = value24;
                }

                public T1 Property1 { get; }
                // ....
                public T24 Property24 { get; }
                }
                // ....
                class MyFooClass
                {
                private T1 property1;
                // ....
                private T24 property24;

                public FooDto ToDto()
                {
                    return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                }
                

                }

                In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                ZurdoDev
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                Super Lloyd wrote:

                select your favourite of 2 options.

                I prefer favorite.

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                • S Super Lloyd

                  Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                  public class FooDto
                  {
                  public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                  // ....
                  public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                  }
                  // ....
                  class MyFooClass
                  {
                  private T1 property1;
                  // ....
                  private T24 property24;

                  public FooDto ToDto()
                  {
                      return new FooDto()
                      {
                          Property1 = property1,
                          //....
                          Property24 = property24,
                      };
                  }
                  

                  }

                  how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                  public class FooDto
                  {
                  public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                  {
                  Property1 = value1;
                  // .....
                  Property24 = value24;
                  }

                  public T1 Property1 { get; }
                  // ....
                  public T24 Property24 { get; }
                  }
                  // ....
                  class MyFooClass
                  {
                  private T1 property1;
                  // ....
                  private T24 property24;

                  public FooDto ToDto()
                  {
                      return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                  }
                  

                  }

                  In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                  Lost User
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  Neither. One does not "force" all or none. The constructor-parameters are added for all variables that the object needs before it can initialize. Any other option that can be set later should be a public property. If you have more than three parameters, consider creating a class for them and to pass the thing to the constructor.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Neither. One does not "force" all or none. The constructor-parameters are added for all variables that the object needs before it can initialize. Any other option that can be set later should be a public property. If you have more than three parameters, consider creating a class for them and to pass the thing to the constructor.

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                    Super Lloyd
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    it's a DTO, i.e. all those could be field really (except it would sparkle another argument). No code is either run into that class, just a bag of well known property....

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Super Lloyd wrote:

                      select your favourite of 2 options.

                      I prefer favorite.

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                      Super Lloyd
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      I live in Australia..... I am giving in the local area grammar Nazi... :sigh: :((

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                      • S Super Lloyd

                        it's a DTO, i.e. all those could be field really (except it would sparkle another argument). No code is either run into that class, just a bag of well known property....

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                        Lost User
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        The same still applies; anything that is required should be there in the constructor. If it is not required for the objects existence, then it becomes a property. For a DTO, I'd expect an Id-field, and without an Id such object should not exist.

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                          public class FooDto
                          {
                          public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                          // ....
                          public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                          }
                          // ....
                          class MyFooClass
                          {
                          private T1 property1;
                          // ....
                          private T24 property24;

                          public FooDto ToDto()
                          {
                              return new FooDto()
                              {
                                  Property1 = property1,
                                  //....
                                  Property24 = property24,
                              };
                          }
                          

                          }

                          how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                          public class FooDto
                          {
                          public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                          {
                          Property1 = value1;
                          // .....
                          Property24 = value24;
                          }

                          public T1 Property1 { get; }
                          // ....
                          public T24 Property24 { get; }
                          }
                          // ....
                          class MyFooClass
                          {
                          private T1 property1;
                          // ....
                          private T24 property24;

                          public FooDto ToDto()
                          {
                              return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                          }
                          

                          }

                          In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                          Marc Clifton
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          Neither. It shouldn't be the responsiblity of MyFooClass to return a FooDto, it should be FooDto's class to take a MyFooClass and convert it to a FooDto. So you have instead:

                          public class FooDto
                          {
                          public static FooDto From(MyFooClass c)
                          {
                          // ...mapping...
                          }
                          }

                          And to make this more re-usable for different data objects and to avoid repeating From for every type of "from - to" conversion, use interfaces:

                          public class FooDto : IFooDto
                          {
                          public static IFooDto From(IFooClass c)
                          {
                          // ...mapping...
                          }
                          }

                          This promotes consistency between properties in FooDto and properties in the "from" class that can be mapped to FooDto.

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                          • S Super Lloyd

                            Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                            public class FooDto
                            {
                            public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                            // ....
                            public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                            }
                            // ....
                            class MyFooClass
                            {
                            private T1 property1;
                            // ....
                            private T24 property24;

                            public FooDto ToDto()
                            {
                                return new FooDto()
                                {
                                    Property1 = property1,
                                    //....
                                    Property24 = property24,
                                };
                            }
                            

                            }

                            how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                            public class FooDto
                            {
                            public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                            {
                            Property1 = value1;
                            // .....
                            Property24 = value24;
                            }

                            public T1 Property1 { get; }
                            // ....
                            public T24 Property24 { get; }
                            }
                            // ....
                            class MyFooClass
                            {
                            private T1 property1;
                            // ....
                            private T24 property24;

                            public FooDto ToDto()
                            {
                                return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                            }
                            

                            }

                            In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Of the two choices given, I'd take 1; but would prefer a third option.:

                            public class FooDto
                            {
                            public FooDto(MyFooClass foo)
                            {
                            Property1 = foo.property1;
                            // .....
                            Property24 = foo.property24;
                            }

                            public T1 Property1 { get; }
                            // ....
                            public T24 Property24 { get; }
                            }
                            // ....
                            class MyFooClass
                            {
                            private T1 property1;
                            // ....
                            private T24 property24;
                            }

                            If for some reason I

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                            • S Super Lloyd

                              Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                              public class FooDto
                              {
                              public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                              // ....
                              public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                              }
                              // ....
                              class MyFooClass
                              {
                              private T1 property1;
                              // ....
                              private T24 property24;

                              public FooDto ToDto()
                              {
                                  return new FooDto()
                                  {
                                      Property1 = property1,
                                      //....
                                      Property24 = property24,
                                  };
                              }
                              

                              }

                              how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                              public class FooDto
                              {
                              public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                              {
                              Property1 = value1;
                              // .....
                              Property24 = value24;
                              }

                              public T1 Property1 { get; }
                              // ....
                              public T24 Property24 { get; }
                              }
                              // ....
                              class MyFooClass
                              {
                              private T1 property1;
                              // ....
                              private T24 property24;

                              public FooDto ToDto()
                              {
                                  return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                              }
                              

                              }

                              In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                              Foothill
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                              If you really want to bake their noodle, put all the value maps in Attributes and then have the object built via Reflection such as in this article[^]. It's a super complicated way to do simple tasks :laugh:

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                              • J Jacquers

                                Option 1, but I do see the argument for option 2, especially if the properties are mandatory.

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                                realJSOP
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                                #25

                                Of course, using reasonable defaults would prevent you from having runaway parameter lists for your constructors, and all you have to do is set the properties that need to be changed.

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                                • S Super Lloyd

                                  Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                                  public class FooDto
                                  {
                                  public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                                  // ....
                                  public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                                  }
                                  // ....
                                  class MyFooClass
                                  {
                                  private T1 property1;
                                  // ....
                                  private T24 property24;

                                  public FooDto ToDto()
                                  {
                                      return new FooDto()
                                      {
                                          Property1 = property1,
                                          //....
                                          Property24 = property24,
                                      };
                                  }
                                  

                                  }

                                  how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                                  public class FooDto
                                  {
                                  public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                  {
                                  Property1 = value1;
                                  // .....
                                  Property24 = value24;
                                  }

                                  public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                  // ....
                                  public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                  }
                                  // ....
                                  class MyFooClass
                                  {
                                  private T1 property1;
                                  // ....
                                  private T24 property24;

                                  public FooDto ToDto()
                                  {
                                      return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                                  }
                                  

                                  }

                                  In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                                  Gary Wheeler
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  public class Foo
                                  {
                                  public class DTO
                                  {
                                  public T1 P1 { set; get; } = P1_default_value;
                                  ...
                                  public T24 P24 { set; get; } = P24_default_value;
                                  }

                                  public void In(DTO dto)
                                  {
                                  // Set _P* from dto.P*
                                  }

                                  public DTO Out()
                                  {
                                  DTO dto = new DTO();

                                  // set dto.P\* from \_P\*
                                  
                                  return dto;
                                  

                                  }

                                  private T1 _P1;
                                  ...
                                  private T24 _P24;
                                  }

                                  The DTO object constructs itself with a consistent default set of values. The DTO property accessors are responsible for maintaining consistency of that set. The In and Out methods of the Foo class manage its internal state based on accepting or producing a DTO, respectively. This approach lets you do things like this:

                                  Foo foo = new Foo();
                                  ...
                                  foo.In(new DTO() { P3 = Fred, P17 = Wilma; });
                                  Foo foo2 = new Foo();
                                  foo2.In(foo.Out());

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                                    public class FooDto
                                    {
                                    public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                                    // ....
                                    public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                                    }
                                    // ....
                                    class MyFooClass
                                    {
                                    private T1 property1;
                                    // ....
                                    private T24 property24;

                                    public FooDto ToDto()
                                    {
                                        return new FooDto()
                                        {
                                            Property1 = property1,
                                            //....
                                            Property24 = property24,
                                        };
                                    }
                                    

                                    }

                                    how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                                    public class FooDto
                                    {
                                    public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                    {
                                    Property1 = value1;
                                    // .....
                                    Property24 = value24;
                                    }

                                    public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                    // ....
                                    public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                    }
                                    // ....
                                    class MyFooClass
                                    {
                                    private T1 property1;
                                    // ....
                                    private T24 property24;

                                    public FooDto ToDto()
                                    {
                                        return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                                    }
                                    

                                    }

                                    In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

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                                    Rob Philpott
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    So option 1 gives you simplicity, whereas option 2 gives you immutability. There are arguments for both, the immutability one being that one DTO can be safely shared by many things as none of them can alter it. With option 1, by rights you need to keep cloning the thing to prevent any badly behaved code messing up the 'master' copy. So there's a memory/performance trade off with all that. You often get that cloning for free through serialization mind. That said, when you wish to change one property on option 2, it becomes a screaming nightmare of reconstructing a new one with one difference in the constructor parameter list. We had option 2, but it was too much to stomach in the end.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    • S Super Lloyd

                                      Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                                      public class FooDto
                                      {
                                      public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                                      // ....
                                      public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                                      }
                                      // ....
                                      class MyFooClass
                                      {
                                      private T1 property1;
                                      // ....
                                      private T24 property24;

                                      public FooDto ToDto()
                                      {
                                          return new FooDto()
                                          {
                                              Property1 = property1,
                                              //....
                                              Property24 = property24,
                                          };
                                      }
                                      

                                      }

                                      how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                                      public class FooDto
                                      {
                                      public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                      {
                                      Property1 = value1;
                                      // .....
                                      Property24 = value24;
                                      }

                                      public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                      // ....
                                      public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                      }
                                      // ....
                                      class MyFooClass
                                      {
                                      private T1 property1;
                                      // ....
                                      private T24 property24;

                                      public FooDto ToDto()
                                      {
                                          return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                                      }
                                      

                                      }

                                      In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

                                      A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                      ScottM1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28

                                      Option 1

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                                      • S Super Lloyd

                                        Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                                        public class FooDto
                                        {
                                        public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                                        // ....
                                        public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                                        }
                                        // ....
                                        class MyFooClass
                                        {
                                        private T1 property1;
                                        // ....
                                        private T24 property24;

                                        public FooDto ToDto()
                                        {
                                            return new FooDto()
                                            {
                                                Property1 = property1,
                                                //....
                                                Property24 = property24,
                                            };
                                        }
                                        

                                        }

                                        how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                                        public class FooDto
                                        {
                                        public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                        {
                                        Property1 = value1;
                                        // .....
                                        Property24 = value24;
                                        }

                                        public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                        // ....
                                        public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                        }
                                        // ....
                                        class MyFooClass
                                        {
                                        private T1 property1;
                                        // ....
                                        private T24 property24;

                                        public FooDto ToDto()
                                        {
                                            return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                                        }
                                        

                                        }

                                        In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

                                        A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                        Sander RosselS Offline
                                        Sander Rossel
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        It depends. I use option 2 only for values that are absolutely necessary for the class to work (and that should never be 24 parameters, that's just bad design!). And option 2 is ideal for constructor injection in DI. Other than that, option 1.

                                        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          Yes it's a programming question, but wait a moment, I am NOT asking to solve any problem here, I am asking to select your favourite of 2 options. I think what they want me to do here at work is disgusting. I have to suck it up anyway, since it's the guy who accepts pull request that tells me to do it, period. But I am curious whether or not I am in good company with my prejudice. It's about DTO, constructors with zillion of parameters and all private properties. code I prefer and put in my pull request, with 24 properties (i.e large number of properties)

                                          public class FooDto
                                          {
                                          public T1 Property1 { get; set; }
                                          // ....
                                          public T24 Property24 { get; set; }
                                          }
                                          // ....
                                          class MyFooClass
                                          {
                                          private T1 property1;
                                          // ....
                                          private T24 property24;

                                          public FooDto ToDto()
                                          {
                                              return new FooDto()
                                              {
                                                  Property1 = property1,
                                                  //....
                                                  Property24 = property24,
                                              };
                                          }
                                          

                                          }

                                          how I have asked to rewrite the code, feels disgusting to me, but curious how many people share, or dislike, my opinion

                                          public class FooDto
                                          {
                                          public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                          {
                                          Property1 = value1;
                                          // .....
                                          Property24 = value24;
                                          }

                                          public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                          // ....
                                          public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                          }
                                          // ....
                                          class MyFooClass
                                          {
                                          private T1 property1;
                                          // ....
                                          private T24 property24;

                                          public FooDto ToDto()
                                          {
                                              return new FooDto(property1 /\*\* \*/, property24);
                                          }
                                          

                                          }

                                          In his defence he has an argument. If someone use that DTO as well, the compiler will force them to initialise all values. Though one could counter argument that we got unit test for just that. At any rate, which of those 2 is your favourite code style?

                                          A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                          DerekT P
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          Could you not just use inheritance and do away with all the property setting?

                                          public class FooDto
                                          {
                                          public FooDto(T1 value1 /** 24 values later */, T24 value24)
                                          {
                                          Property1 = value1;
                                          // .....
                                          Property24 = value24;
                                          }

                                          public T1 Property1 { get; }
                                          // ....
                                          public T24 Property24 { get; }
                                          }
                                          // ....
                                          class MyFooClass : FooDto
                                          {
                                          // ....
                                          }

                                          This exposes properties T1 ... T24 of the base FooDto class but that may or may not be an issue. There are arguments against combining DTOs and inheritance, so without knowing the details of your implementation this may not be appropriate. Part of "knowing the details" of course involves the use of a crystal ball to envisage future changes, but depending on the scenario you can pretty much rule out a lot of potential stuff and, in this case, save yourself a lot of code.

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