How do I tell them I reconsidered?
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There is no good\professional way of doing this as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!). Just tell them succinctly that you're declining as you got another offer. Also check the small-print of anything you have signed or agreed to in case there is anything covering this.
Nonsense. If they decided the next day that they didn't need him the would find a way to fire him.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Just be direct and honest. Stuff happens and as an employer myself I would want to know ASAP so I can get back to other candidates who I may have passed over in favour of you. Maybe they still have a chance.
I haven't heard back on the Office Alcoholic position I applied for.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
cheers Chris Maunder
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And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
But I'm drinking lots of different things. That's experimentation and research right there.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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There is no good\professional way of doing this as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!). Just tell them succinctly that you're declining as you got another offer. Also check the small-print of anything you have signed or agreed to in case there is anything covering this.
I can't understand this mindset many people have (especially in the states) where employees should be both beholden and loyal to companies even at their own cost but companies have zero obligation to the employee beyond a static paycheck. Hypocritical. In general: Loyalty, like respect, is a two-way street. If a company doesn't want to worry about hiring difficulties, then take the steps to keep talent you've hired. It's not like job-hunting is free for the labor either (in dollars or in time). EDIT: Also in this specific case, no contracts have been signed yet. Do you honestly think a company would "do what's right" even if it cost the company money and they had no legal obligation to do it? :laugh:
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Take the better offer. Just tell the first "Never mind." Sheesh. You think they lose sleep over it? You think they'll even remember your name in two days?
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Dear Company A, I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time. I have recently been offered an alternative role with another organisation which is much more suited to my current situation. I apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused you and I thank you for your time and interest. Best Regards, Me --- Basically just keep it short and to the point. It is good to mention the other offer as it reduces their need to come back with follow up questions (which they likely will if you don't say anything), which you don't want. If they are professional enough then you will get a short "we are sorry but all the best" reply. Otherwise you might get a short and ungrateful one... either way, you shouldn't need to take any further action with them.
musefan wrote:
I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time
Too brutal, too much information, and with bits in the wrong order. Unfortunately, circumstances dictate that things will not be able to go forward as planned, and I am no longer able to join you at this time. I thank you for your time and interest in me, and apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. You've got to use things like "join you at this time" and "your interest in me", in case the other job goes pear-shaped.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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noob. no offense. I've been a hiring manager. We love people like you.
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All employers love me because I act professionally and have high moral standards :)
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
If the offer from Company B is the one that right for you and your family, then just be honest and say you've had a better offer. No debate, no discussion, just move along. I wouldn't give it a second thought, but that's just me.
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What is complicated in my mind is I "formally" accepted. I didn't do any paperwork yet though. There are forms and a drug screen I have to do in order to be truly hired. But yes, your description sounds right.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
loctrice wrote:
drug screen
I see cure for your troubles :)
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musefan wrote:
I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time
Too brutal, too much information, and with bits in the wrong order. Unfortunately, circumstances dictate that things will not be able to go forward as planned, and I am no longer able to join you at this time. I thank you for your time and interest in me, and apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. You've got to use things like "join you at this time" and "your interest in me", in case the other job goes pear-shaped.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Agree - make it non-personal. Blame "circumstances" not personal choice. Do this sooner rather than later if you are feeling guilty about letting down company A; BUT do wait until you've had and accepted a formal offer from B, otherwise it becomes very awkward to go back to A and say, "you know that job offer I turned down? Due to a change in circumstances..." :doh:
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Some say this is unprofessional. I don't think so. It's a dog-eat-dog business world. Most companies have little regard for your convenience when it comes to their needs. If some would sacrifice a higher standard of living and level of happiness to stick with the original offer out of moral obligation, good for them, they are at piece with their conscience. Hopefully, the company would reciprocate such consideration, but this is unlikely. Anyway, if Company A wanted you bad enough, they could make a better offer. Just give Company A the truth. The truth will set you free.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!)
No apologies necessary. I'm aware of this. You can see details below if you want. I think mentioning another offer may be more information than is needed. I may just tell them I've reconsidered and decided it's not going to work. FYI: There was a relocation package on the table the entire time. Through the process they decided to put me in for a different job than I was approached with, and then I "qualified" for one level down from that. This meant the pay was less as well as no relocation package. I was going to do it anyway because there's a sign on bonus that would cover it but I'd have to live there myself until my first check and then bring the family.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I can't understand this mindset many people have (especially in the states) where employees should be both beholden and loyal to companies even at their own cost but companies have zero obligation to the employee beyond a static paycheck. Hypocritical. In general: Loyalty, like respect, is a two-way street. If a company doesn't want to worry about hiring difficulties, then take the steps to keep talent you've hired. It's not like job-hunting is free for the labor either (in dollars or in time). EDIT: Also in this specific case, no contracts have been signed yet. Do you honestly think a company would "do what's right" even if it cost the company money and they had no legal obligation to do it? :laugh:
Yeah the laborer has to do a decent amount of work beyond just sending in resumes. I had several interviews and code tests and whatnot. Definitely not free. I also understand that if it made sense for them, they'd cancel on me even after I'd quit my current job. I've seen that happen before (not to me, but to a friend).
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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This is actually more like breaking off an engagement than disrespecting your wife.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Justify as you see fit to allow you to sleep at night; however, I agree that it is unprofessional. In any event, since nothing concerning this job is in writing yet, you don't need a formal letter to tell them you do not want the job (unless you have written a letter accepting the job). Basically, maintain consistency of correspondence. Explain your situation to the extent you think necessary. You are not "saving face" with Company A here anyway; you now NEVER have a chance of being employed there: your record is in the system, and will always be referenced as "a quitter" in the future. Depending on how well management at Company A is connected to other companies, your reputation will precede you as you go through your career and fallout from this may exist for a while. Or it may not. Much like a relationship, the longer you wait to break it off, the more damage will occur.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
But I'm drinking lots of different things. That's experimentation and research right there.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
But I'm drinking lots of different things
FTFY
cheers Chris Maunder
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Yeah the laborer has to do a decent amount of work beyond just sending in resumes. I had several interviews and code tests and whatnot. Definitely not free. I also understand that if it made sense for them, they'd cancel on me even after I'd quit my current job. I've seen that happen before (not to me, but to a friend).
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
loctrice wrote:
I also understand that if it made sense for them, they'd cancel on me even after I'd quit my current job. I've seen that happen before (not to me, but to a friend).
Happened to me. After I moved, in fact. Company decided they were fine with their old system and let 3 new hires go days before we started. I even drove 13 hours to an interview for that job. Learned my lesson. Now I'm just chilling in the middle of nowhere Kansas. Thinking of hopping over to CO after I finish school.
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
I once had 2 offers at the same time from A & B. I chose A, gave B a chance to barter but they did not. I then started working for A for a month, then B calls me back and wants to offer more money and pleads with me to leave A. At this point, A had already bought me a laptop, and international plane tickets to attend training. So I had to tell B, sorry, you took too long. Company B actually closed shop 3 or 4 years later and I'm still at A. Probably just luck, but I'm going to call it good karma... LOL.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!)
No apologies necessary. I'm aware of this. You can see details below if you want. I think mentioning another offer may be more information than is needed. I may just tell them I've reconsidered and decided it's not going to work. FYI: There was a relocation package on the table the entire time. Through the process they decided to put me in for a different job than I was approached with, and then I "qualified" for one level down from that. This meant the pay was less as well as no relocation package. I was going to do it anyway because there's a sign on bonus that would cover it but I'd have to live there myself until my first check and then bring the family.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
No issue here - "upon further thought I've decided the job you offered is not what I am looking for" and be done with it. They apparently reconsidered too else they would not have switched jobs after the interview. In a year's time no one will even remember it happened.
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Agree - make it non-personal. Blame "circumstances" not personal choice. Do this sooner rather than later if you are feeling guilty about letting down company A; BUT do wait until you've had and accepted a formal offer from B, otherwise it becomes very awkward to go back to A and say, "you know that job offer I turned down? Due to a change in circumstances..." :doh:
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What is complicated in my mind is I "formally" accepted. I didn't do any paperwork yet though. There are forms and a drug screen I have to do in order to be truly hired. But yes, your description sounds right.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Just be honest and tell Company A what just happened. You have no obligation to go through if you haven't take any of the sign-on bonus money. Situation like happens all the time. If Company A doesn't understand that, you wouldn't want to work for them anyway. What you need to do is weight on which job or company is better in the long run.