How do I tell them I reconsidered?
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I wonder what position in the A-Team he would have gotten...
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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loctrice wrote:
made me an offer that I can't refuse
Did it involve a suggestion that you might be sleeping with the fishes? :wtf:
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
PeejayAdams wrote:
Did it involve a suggestion that you might be sleeping with the fishes? :WTF:
I did not know we had Troy McClure as a member.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Just be direct and honest. Stuff happens and as an employer myself I would want to know ASAP so I can get back to other candidates who I may have passed over in favour of you. Maybe they still have a chance.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Just be direct and honest. Stuff happens and as an employer myself I would want to know ASAP so I can get back to other candidates who I may have passed over in favour of you. Maybe they still have a chance.
I haven't heard back on the Office Alcoholic position I applied for.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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"the offer would expire." Not sure I would have accepted an offer that had an expiration date in the first place. Sounds unprofessional and disrespectful to me. Just as consumers are advised to walk away from deals that are "only good today". And you would wind up working with a bunch of colleagues who had also fallen for the same bad sales technique.
A elephanting men!
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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There is no good\professional way of doing this as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!). Just tell them succinctly that you're declining as you got another offer. Also check the small-print of anything you have signed or agreed to in case there is anything covering this.
disagree. 200%. Contract other than show up for a week, we'll pay you a week? Nonsense. If they *really* wanted him, they would have given him golden handcuffs.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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It is different to leaving a current job because when you do that the company has got some value from your work, and you need to give a notice period which gives them a chance to replace you, and that notice period also means you have fully complied with your legal and moral duty to the company. Accepting a job offer and then declining it puts the company in a bad situation for many reasons. For one they may be banking on the fact that you are starting, and now they have to re-start the hiring process. They might have spent money on advertising, on agency fees etc which has gone to waste. If you are waiting on another offer to come through then you should tell the company that you need to wait, not accept it while you wait and see if the other offer comes through.
noob. no offense. I've been a hiring manager. We love people like you.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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There is no good\professional way of doing this as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!). Just tell them succinctly that you're declining as you got another offer. Also check the small-print of anything you have signed or agreed to in case there is anything covering this.
Nonsense. If they decided the next day that they didn't need him the would find a way to fire him.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Just be direct and honest. Stuff happens and as an employer myself I would want to know ASAP so I can get back to other candidates who I may have passed over in favour of you. Maybe they still have a chance.
I haven't heard back on the Office Alcoholic position I applied for.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
cheers Chris Maunder
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And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
And here I was thinking you weren't showing up to work because you were too busy at the pub. Don't even try and expense that off as "research"
But I'm drinking lots of different things. That's experimentation and research right there.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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There is no good\professional way of doing this as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!). Just tell them succinctly that you're declining as you got another offer. Also check the small-print of anything you have signed or agreed to in case there is anything covering this.
I can't understand this mindset many people have (especially in the states) where employees should be both beholden and loyal to companies even at their own cost but companies have zero obligation to the employee beyond a static paycheck. Hypocritical. In general: Loyalty, like respect, is a two-way street. If a company doesn't want to worry about hiring difficulties, then take the steps to keep talent you've hired. It's not like job-hunting is free for the labor either (in dollars or in time). EDIT: Also in this specific case, no contracts have been signed yet. Do you honestly think a company would "do what's right" even if it cost the company money and they had no legal obligation to do it? :laugh:
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Take the better offer. Just tell the first "Never mind." Sheesh. You think they lose sleep over it? You think they'll even remember your name in two days?
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Dear Company A, I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time. I have recently been offered an alternative role with another organisation which is much more suited to my current situation. I apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused you and I thank you for your time and interest. Best Regards, Me --- Basically just keep it short and to the point. It is good to mention the other offer as it reduces their need to come back with follow up questions (which they likely will if you don't say anything), which you don't want. If they are professional enough then you will get a short "we are sorry but all the best" reply. Otherwise you might get a short and ungrateful one... either way, you shouldn't need to take any further action with them.
musefan wrote:
I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time
Too brutal, too much information, and with bits in the wrong order. Unfortunately, circumstances dictate that things will not be able to go forward as planned, and I am no longer able to join you at this time. I thank you for your time and interest in me, and apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. You've got to use things like "join you at this time" and "your interest in me", in case the other job goes pear-shaped.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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noob. no offense. I've been a hiring manager. We love people like you.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
All employers love me because I act professionally and have high moral standards :)
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
If the offer from Company B is the one that right for you and your family, then just be honest and say you've had a better offer. No debate, no discussion, just move along. I wouldn't give it a second thought, but that's just me.
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What is complicated in my mind is I "formally" accepted. I didn't do any paperwork yet though. There are forms and a drug screen I have to do in order to be truly hired. But yes, your description sounds right.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
loctrice wrote:
drug screen
I see cure for your troubles :)
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musefan wrote:
I have made the decision to decline your job offer and will no longer be joining you at this time
Too brutal, too much information, and with bits in the wrong order. Unfortunately, circumstances dictate that things will not be able to go forward as planned, and I am no longer able to join you at this time. I thank you for your time and interest in me, and apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. You've got to use things like "join you at this time" and "your interest in me", in case the other job goes pear-shaped.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Agree - make it non-personal. Blame "circumstances" not personal choice. Do this sooner rather than later if you are feeling guilty about letting down company A; BUT do wait until you've had and accepted a formal offer from B, otherwise it becomes very awkward to go back to A and say, "you know that job offer I turned down? Due to a change in circumstances..." :doh:
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I recently accepted an offer from company A. I didn't have time to wait for company B as the offer would expire. Sure enough company B made me an offer that I can't refuse. I'm comfortable with my decision, but I don't know a good/professional way to tell company A that I've reconsidered. You can find things like resignation letter examples on line, but I don't see any examples of this. Ideas? Suggestions?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
Some say this is unprofessional. I don't think so. It's a dog-eat-dog business world. Most companies have little regard for your convenience when it comes to their needs. If some would sacrifice a higher standard of living and level of happiness to stick with the original offer out of moral obligation, good for them, they are at piece with their conscience. Hopefully, the company would reciprocate such consideration, but this is unlikely. Anyway, if Company A wanted you bad enough, they could make a better offer. Just give Company A the truth. The truth will set you free.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
as what you are doing is unprofessional (sorry, but it is!)
No apologies necessary. I'm aware of this. You can see details below if you want. I think mentioning another offer may be more information than is needed. I may just tell them I've reconsidered and decided it's not going to work. FYI: There was a relocation package on the table the entire time. Through the process they decided to put me in for a different job than I was approached with, and then I "qualified" for one level down from that. This meant the pay was less as well as no relocation package. I was going to do it anyway because there's a sign on bonus that would cover it but I'd have to live there myself until my first check and then bring the family.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I can't understand this mindset many people have (especially in the states) where employees should be both beholden and loyal to companies even at their own cost but companies have zero obligation to the employee beyond a static paycheck. Hypocritical. In general: Loyalty, like respect, is a two-way street. If a company doesn't want to worry about hiring difficulties, then take the steps to keep talent you've hired. It's not like job-hunting is free for the labor either (in dollars or in time). EDIT: Also in this specific case, no contracts have been signed yet. Do you honestly think a company would "do what's right" even if it cost the company money and they had no legal obligation to do it? :laugh:
Yeah the laborer has to do a decent amount of work beyond just sending in resumes. I had several interviews and code tests and whatnot. Definitely not free. I also understand that if it made sense for them, they'd cancel on me even after I'd quit my current job. I've seen that happen before (not to me, but to a friend).
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
