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  • L Lost User

    R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

    I take this as an exhortation that must be obeyed

    I first read that as "extortion". :doh:

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    Marc Clifton
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    Mike Mullikin wrote:

    I first read that as "extortion".

    Me too. I was wondering in what form the profit from said extortion would take, but then my eyes adjusted. Darn. :laugh:

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

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      nedo_007
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      Why not give golang a try (go for backend and templeting, your js framework of choice for the frontend, mysql/postgresSQL for the db)

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

        Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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        Jacquers
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        Angular 5+ with TypeScript PostgreSQL .Net Core web api (it's ms, but can run on Linux)

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

          Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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          maze3
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          attempt it all in Javascript, front, middle and back. full web page only via javascript (no css or html files, if that even possible to load js without an html page?) node.js mongodb

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          • S Scott Serl

            While I am a big fan of Python, I am not so fond of the Ruby on Rails wannabe Django. If you want to really get into the web modern stack, go Node.js on the server and pick your front end flavor (angular, vue, react, aurelia...). Take it a step further and leave your sql behind for a nosql document database (mongodb, mariadb, couchdb...). Visual studio Code works great with most of the web development frameworks. Forgot to mention, just use whatever Linux distro that interests you, but if you're not a Linux guru, stick with one of the Ubuntu variants, Debian, or Fedora because there is a lot of support out there on the web...definitely don't choose Arch Linux if you are not an expert.

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            Abraham Andres Luna
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            I was also going to suggest Node :D

            "Dreams really do come true."

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

              Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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              Bruce Patin
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              I highly recommend PostgreSQL instead of MySQL. The stored proc code is object oriented. The whole thing is very logical. The only thing good about MySQL is that it is a little more available on web hosting services.

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

                Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                crazedDotNetDev
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                I’ve been a fan of Ubuntu[^] for a few years now. It’s got good support and is solid enough for everything I’ve needed so far. As for Database… • MS SQL[^] is just amazing. • MySQL[^] is adequate for most needs. • SQLite[^] is very small and portable. • PostgreSQL[^] has tons of cool add-on features. As for Languages… • I’m all-in for .NET Core[^] & Standard. Nothing else matters. • But if I ever leave .NET, I’ll probably go for C++. I hear it’s not the C++ I knew in the 90s.

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

                  Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                  Lost User
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                  If you're "not into MS", then it's (usually) the "LAMP" stack: Linux; Apache (web server); MySql; PHP. Since you are not into PHP, you will need to find another language that starts with "P". Me, instead of the "woodman's" approach, will stick with MS and electric power tools. [AI platform - Microsoft AI](https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/ai/ai-platform)

                  "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                  • L Lost User

                    If you're "not into MS", then it's (usually) the "LAMP" stack: Linux; Apache (web server); MySql; PHP. Since you are not into PHP, you will need to find another language that starts with "P". Me, instead of the "woodman's" approach, will stick with MS and electric power tools. [AI platform - Microsoft AI](https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/ai/ai-platform)

                    "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    Oh I am most certainly an MS-fanbois - have been since day one! I just feel like trying something new and different; you know, to spice codey things up a bit. :-)

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool. So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start). Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation? Thanks.

                      Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer. The End

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                      icemanind
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                      I recommend going toward Node.JS. It's fast and efficient and it's got a lot of good libraries and frameworks to support it. If you are comfortable with NoSQL databases, I'd recommend using MongoDB as your back end database. If you are more of a SQL guy, I'd recommend MySql. As far as AI goes, if you go with Node, you can use Tensor Flow!

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:

                        Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation?

                        I was going to suggest Python, and that clinched it -- there is a LOT of great stuff out there using Python and AI engines (mostly implemented in C, Python ends up being a wrapper, but still a lot of good stuff -- videos, training guides, Jupyter docs, etc.) So take a look at Python and Django. It's easy enough to set up.

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                        Mark H2
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                        Hmm. But is Django unchained? :)

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