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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    You can't see anything in QA except "black magic" crap at the moment, and they are posting faster than we can remove the dross. The spam filter seems to be ignoring them as well, and it's had plenty of examples! How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended and all posts, comments, messages, questions, and answers go to a "quarantine" for staff inspection? It would "clean up" the site quickly (and manually reporting 90+ QA questions for one user takes time) and that should discourage the idiots from posting at all. Yesterday was a tester: "Can we get past the detector?". Today would seem to be "payload day" - and the site looks like a New Age Drivel site because you can't see anything but astrology in QA ...

    Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    realJSOP
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    One question per day, and/or recaptcha for users less than a year old, or for users under a certain rep points threshold, say 10k points. It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      One question per day, and/or recaptcha for users less than a year old, or for users under a certain rep points threshold, say 10k points. It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      OriginalGriff
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

      Indeed. Most of us would fail ... :laugh:

      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        One question per day, and/or recaptcha for users less than a year old, or for users under a certain rep points threshold, say 10k points. It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        There is a rep point threshold, but it's at 500 points. See my post above.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

          Indeed. Most of us would fail ... :laugh:

          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          realJSOP
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          That's funny - I don't care who y'are...

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            You can't see anything in QA except "black magic" crap at the moment, and they are posting faster than we can remove the dross. The spam filter seems to be ignoring them as well, and it's had plenty of examples! How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended and all posts, comments, messages, questions, and answers go to a "quarantine" for staff inspection? It would "clean up" the site quickly (and manually reporting 90+ QA questions for one user takes time) and that should discourage the idiots from posting at all. Yesterday was a tester: "Can we get past the detector?". Today would seem to be "payload day" - and the site looks like a New Age Drivel site because you can't see anything but astrology in QA ...

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Richard Deeming
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            QA does stand for "Quick Astrologers", doesn't it? :doh:


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

              Indeed. Most of us would fail ... :laugh:

              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Bryian Tan
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              we can make the captcha ask simple question, like what is 1 + 5, 2 x 3 :) have a calculator ready

              Bryian Tan

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              • B Bryian Tan

                we can make the captcha ask simple question, like what is 1 + 5, 2 x 3 :) have a calculator ready

                Bryian Tan

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                OriginalGriff
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                Most QA questioners would have to ask a question in QA to solve the problem! :laugh: Hang on ... you may be on to something here ... Hmmm ...

                Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  You can't see anything in QA except "black magic" crap at the moment, and they are posting faster than we can remove the dross. The spam filter seems to be ignoring them as well, and it's had plenty of examples! How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended and all posts, comments, messages, questions, and answers go to a "quarantine" for staff inspection? It would "clean up" the site quickly (and manually reporting 90+ QA questions for one user takes time) and that should discourage the idiots from posting at all. Yesterday was a tester: "Can we get past the detector?". Today would seem to be "payload day" - and the site looks like a New Age Drivel site because you can't see anything but astrology in QA ...

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  RmcbainTheThird
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                  So who is responsible for cleaning up these posts?

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                  • R RmcbainTheThird

                    So who is responsible for cleaning up these posts?

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    The hamsters will get 'em - they have direct access to the DB and can wield The Obsidian Axe of Sql against them. :-D

                    Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • R RmcbainTheThird

                      So who is responsible for cleaning up these posts?

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      You are. We will give you a chisel.

                      This space for rent

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.

                        Indeed. Most of us would fail ... :laugh:

                        Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Mohibur Rashid
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                        I found it amusing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                        I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          QA does stand for "Quick Astrologers", doesn't it? :doh:


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          Mohibur Rashid
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                          uranus is related to astrology:java:

                          I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            You can't see anything in QA except "black magic" crap at the moment, and they are posting faster than we can remove the dross. The spam filter seems to be ignoring them as well, and it's had plenty of examples! How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended and all posts, comments, messages, questions, and answers go to a "quarantine" for staff inspection? It would "clean up" the site quickly (and manually reporting 90+ QA questions for one user takes time) and that should discourage the idiots from posting at all. Yesterday was a tester: "Can we get past the detector?". Today would seem to be "payload day" - and the site looks like a New Age Drivel site because you can't see anything but astrology in QA ...

                            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            The issue here is that we set the level for people to avoid the spam tester too low - 600 points in some cases. This has been updated (you need Gold status now) so let's see how this goes instead of pushing the issue back onto manual user intervention as the primary guard.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                              The issue here is that we set the level for people to avoid the spam tester too low - 600 points in some cases. This has been updated (you need Gold status now) so let's see how this goes instead of pushing the issue back onto manual user intervention as the primary guard.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              I'd agree that it shouldn't be the first line of defence - the spam detector does a good job nearly all the time. But for days like yesterday when you can't feed the damn things to the detector fast enough, we do need a backup option to discourage them from further posting. If we turn their efforts into a waste of time quickly enough, they will bugger off elsewhere (as we've seen today). And (no offence intended) they tend to be in a time zone when you are all having a well-deserved sleep. You've got a network of protectors in every time zone, so I'm just suggesting you give them a backup tool in the box to prevent floods.

                              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                The issue here is that we set the level for people to avoid the spam tester too low - 600 points in some cases. This has been updated (you need Gold status now) so let's see how this goes instead of pushing the issue back onto manual user intervention as the primary guard.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                GKP1992
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                                Whew, I wouldn't have noticed, I received the gold just yesterday.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  I'd agree that it shouldn't be the first line of defence - the spam detector does a good job nearly all the time. But for days like yesterday when you can't feed the damn things to the detector fast enough, we do need a backup option to discourage them from further posting. If we turn their efforts into a waste of time quickly enough, they will bugger off elsewhere (as we've seen today). And (no offence intended) they tend to be in a time zone when you are all having a well-deserved sleep. You've got a network of protectors in every time zone, so I'm just suggesting you give them a backup tool in the box to prevent floods.

                                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  Nelek
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                                  I would add something to your feature... It could be a "only protectors or higher" check box near the red flag to report an account... something like: This user is a massive spammer, if closed, delete {all messages // messages younger than X days} related to this account So we check the box first and then hit the report button. Combining the power of several small hits to make a big spam hammer as CP Staff's

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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