serverless: IT terminology gets dumberer
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
... well, if the developers are doing work then surely they are also servers, working for their masters. but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point is serverless, hell walkie-talkies for instance are serverless. (just thought of walkies coz today I was "supposed to carry one" around - hah! left the damn thing on the desk and walked away to another floor to do other stuff - crap anyway, couldn't understand a word through the crackle)
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
For those wondering what Serverless is all about, here is an overview of Serverless frameworks: https://www.slant.co/topics/9842/~serverless-frameworks[^] :-\
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... well, if the developers are doing work then surely they are also servers, working for their masters. but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point is serverless, hell walkie-talkies for instance are serverless. (just thought of walkies coz today I was "supposed to carry one" around - hah! left the damn thing on the desk and walked away to another floor to do other stuff - crap anyway, couldn't understand a word through the crackle)
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Lopatir wrote:
but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point
Right, but they couldn't make up a new term for that since they already have "peer-to-peer". They had to invent a new technology ala serverless. :rolleyes:
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Lopatir wrote:
but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point
Right, but they couldn't make up a new term for that since they already have "peer-to-peer". They had to invent a new technology ala serverless. :rolleyes:
In my experience, what is passed off as "new technology" is often just the same old stuff with a different name.
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In my experience, what is passed off as "new technology" is often just the same old stuff with a different name.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
Marketing morons and salesmen are usually of the type that doesn't understand a damned thing about technology, but can talk bollocks about sport with customers till the cows come home. So you need sports analogies, to get technical points across. Try "Do you think it would be possible to have serverless tennis, you **cking moron? The ball has to come from somewhere!" Catch The penny, as it drops.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
It's really very cool technology though... I've written about it and I'm planning on doing a presentation at my company later this year. With serverless I can finally host my websites and databases without needing my own physical server or a system admin for that matter. In that sense the word isn't even completely wrong, as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
The only way I am going to keep my self sane on this is separating out "Server" the hardware and server software. MS SQL Server is not a Server. You will want to run that in Windows Server, which also is not a Server, but make sure you provision and heft Server to run that on. You would run SQL Server on a desktop, but a Server would be better.
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
raddevus wrote:
Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
I've never worked at a company that provided servers while I worked. Would be nice. :rolleyes:
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Marketing morons and salesmen are usually of the type that doesn't understand a damned thing about technology, but can talk bollocks about sport with customers till the cows come home. So you need sports analogies, to get technical points across. Try "Do you think it would be possible to have serverless tennis, you **cking moron? The ball has to come from somewhere!" Catch The penny, as it drops.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's really very cool technology though... I've written about it and I'm planning on doing a presentation at my company later this year. With serverless I can finally host my websites and databases without needing my own physical server or a system admin for that matter. In that sense the word isn't even completely wrong, as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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The only way I am going to keep my self sane on this is separating out "Server" the hardware and server software. MS SQL Server is not a Server. You will want to run that in Windows Server, which also is not a Server, but make sure you provision and heft Server to run that on. You would run SQL Server on a desktop, but a Server would be better.
maze3 wrote:
The only way I am going to keep my self sane on this is separating out "Server" the hardware and server software.
That's a good point. And it is interesting that the word "server" is so ambiguous. Well, so many things in IT are ambiguous really. It's why so many people have the same titles but do entirely different things at different companies.
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raddevus wrote:
Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
I've never worked at a company that provided servers while I worked. Would be nice. :rolleyes:
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Sander Rossel wrote:
as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
I don't worry about gravity on a regular basis. Does that mean I am gravityless? :laugh:
"as far as I am concerned there are no servers to worry about" and therein lies the problem. This thread explicitly lays the blame for the misinformation the 'serverless' term conveys at the feet of marketing. That much is a no-brainer. The real problem, as I see it, is the falsehood the quote conveys. There is plenty of reason to be wary of servers, server farms and data centers in general: lack of real data security, ownership and privacy, not to mention lack of inherent scalability. Let's see what happens when IoT blows up internet usage by a factor or 10 to 100 or more. I'm sure hierarchical providers will come up with stop-gap measures, but you can be assured they won't be real serverless solutions. For a real serverless archecture see www.hiveware.com.
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It's really very cool technology though... I've written about it and I'm planning on doing a presentation at my company later this year. With serverless I can finally host my websites and databases without needing my own physical server or a system admin for that matter. In that sense the word isn't even completely wrong, as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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But isn't your computer the server, then?
No, the server is somewhere in some data center out of my control. My computer is only used for development.
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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Sander Rossel wrote:
as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
I don't worry about gravity on a regular basis. Does that mean I am gravityless? :laugh:
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Even though you thought IT terminology couldn't get any dumber, the Marketers have found a way. I stumbled upon the term, serverless app / serverless microservice and looked it up... What is Serverless Computing? Serverless Definition | Cloudflare[^]
from the web site entry:
The term ‘serverless’ is somewhat misleading, as there are still servers providing these backend services, but all of the server space and infrastructure concerns are handled by the vendor. Serverless means that the developers can do their work without having to worry about servers at all.
X| X| X| X| X| That's a 5-puke rating! :laugh:
I used to be annoyed by the term 'serverless' until I stopped thinking of it as a description of the underlying technology, and started thinking of it as a description of the billing model. I don't have to care if it's running on a server, or a potato, or a kitten, as long as I'm always billed the same amount for the normalized amount of computing resources I've consumed. Overall, instead of 'serverless', I prefer Functions as as Service (FaaS). That gives a decent idea of what to expect, and gives a relatively easy way to compare it against IaaS (like EC2 and other bits of AWS) and PaaS (Like Azure App Service and Google App Engine).
