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  • C C P User 3

    Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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    Nice for the top layer, but can be a bit firm. If you want more give, put an inch of memory foam on a sprung mattress. Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects. I always go here when in doubt about English words. https://www.etymonline.com/[^] It gives their origin, and origin is always the correct meaning.

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      Nice for the top layer, but can be a bit firm. If you want more give, put an inch of memory foam on a sprung mattress. Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects. I always go here when in doubt about English words. https://www.etymonline.com/[^] It gives their origin, and origin is always the correct meaning.

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      Munchies_Matt wrote:

      lie for people, lay for objects

      Unless you're out getting laid. ;)

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        Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Foam is a really fantastic way for manufacturers to save a huge amount on costs (without reducing prices, of course). The technology for sprung mattresses (yes, it is very complicated) has been tested and proven to an unbelievable degree. Anyone who tries to con you into buying a cheap slab of foam rubber (which will probably slowly poison you in your sleep, anyway) should be given short shrift.

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        • C C P User 3

          Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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          I've been using a memory foam mattress for a few years now and love it. It's firm and it's comfortable. I don't live in a particularly hot country but I do like a cool place to sleep and I can't say that I've noticed any temperature issues. The surprising thing about them is how small they are when packaged up - I remember thinking "no way on Earth is this a double mattress!" but after a few hours, there it was.

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            Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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            Most of the "Memory foam" manufacturers seem to do a 60 / 100 day free trial - if you don't get on with it, you can return it: it may be worth trying one of those (though I suspect getting it back in the box may be ... um ... interesting). There may be "in original condition" caveats on it, so if you or your SO are prone to night sweating ... My feeling is: stuff that - the foam in my chair squashes loads in just a couple of years, so a mattress made of the stuff will probably need replacing fairly quickly ... I could be completely wrong though.

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              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              lie for people, lay for objects

              Unless you're out getting laid. ;)

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              But then you are the object, no? :)

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                Mattress makers have begun switching to a solid piece of foam. I lied (laid ?) down on one this week. Brought back memories of judo mats from my teenage days. But then,,,,,, Is that such a bad thing ? I will be purchasing something on which to sleep soon. Has (or is) anyone else around here used (or using) a foam mattress ? Any Difference ? Good ? Bad ? Better ? Worse ?

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                C-P-User-3 wrote:

                I lied (laid ?) down on one this week.

                Last night I laid the table for dinner. Later I went upstairs and lay on the bed. I lie, I never laid the table.

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                  Nice for the top layer, but can be a bit firm. If you want more give, put an inch of memory foam on a sprung mattress. Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects. I always go here when in doubt about English words. https://www.etymonline.com/[^] It gives their origin, and origin is always the correct meaning.

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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects.

                  Nonsense. Try looking it up from somewhere that isn't wikipedia, and isn't only an "on-line resource" (e.g. one that doesn't include words like "expert" and "girl" in its title).

                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  https://www.etymonline.com/[^]

                  WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything? According to the etymology of "precise", it means "truncated". A huge proportion of our words do not mean what their etymological root words mean, and don't even start to say that their usage has remained the same.

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                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    Re lied vs laid, it is lie for people, lay for objects.

                    Nonsense. Try looking it up from somewhere that isn't wikipedia, and isn't only an "on-line resource" (e.g. one that doesn't include words like "expert" and "girl" in its title).

                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    https://www.etymonline.com/[^]

                    WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything? According to the etymology of "precise", it means "truncated". A huge proportion of our words do not mean what their etymological root words mean, and don't even start to say that their usage has remained the same.

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                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything?

                    Indeed, what has its original meaning got to do with its meaning eh? :doh: Lay or lie ? - English Grammar Today - Cambridge Dictionary[^] "The verb lay means ‘to put something down carefully in a flat position’. It must have an object. " "Lie is a verb which means ‘to be in or put yourself into a flat position’. ... the past simple is lay" And of course as with all weak/strong forms of verbs you can use 'lied' as well as 'lay' as the past simple of 'to lie'. So 'she lied on the bed' is the same as 'she lay on the bed'. (if you dont know about weak strong verbs yet think about dived dove, weaved wove, etc. A strong form is one where the participle spelling is maintained in the past simple. ) But 'to lay' as a verb is for an object.

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                      Foam is a really fantastic way for manufacturers to save a huge amount on costs (without reducing prices, of course). The technology for sprung mattresses (yes, it is very complicated) has been tested and proven to an unbelievable degree. Anyone who tries to con you into buying a cheap slab of foam rubber (which will probably slowly poison you in your sleep, anyway) should be given short shrift.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Yes, this is why they didnt use memory foam for the couches in space ships of course. :doh:

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                        Most of the "Memory foam" manufacturers seem to do a 60 / 100 day free trial - if you don't get on with it, you can return it: it may be worth trying one of those (though I suspect getting it back in the box may be ... um ... interesting). There may be "in original condition" caveats on it, so if you or your SO are prone to night sweating ... My feeling is: stuff that - the foam in my chair squashes loads in just a couple of years, so a mattress made of the stuff will probably need replacing fairly quickly ... I could be completely wrong though.

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        so a mattress made of the stuff will probably need replacing fairly quickly ... I could be completely wrong though.

                        Its like, Here is the coffee you wanted, may be not. Ugh I don't know. Just get it yourself.

                        cheers,

                        Super

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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything?

                          Indeed, what has its original meaning got to do with its meaning eh? :doh: Lay or lie ? - English Grammar Today - Cambridge Dictionary[^] "The verb lay means ‘to put something down carefully in a flat position’. It must have an object. " "Lie is a verb which means ‘to be in or put yourself into a flat position’. ... the past simple is lay" And of course as with all weak/strong forms of verbs you can use 'lied' as well as 'lay' as the past simple of 'to lie'. So 'she lied on the bed' is the same as 'she lay on the bed'. (if you dont know about weak strong verbs yet think about dived dove, weaved wove, etc. A strong form is one where the participle spelling is maintained in the past simple. ) But 'to lay' as a verb is for an object.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Your lack of knowledge of English grammar is amply demonstrated by your mindless misinterpretation of the clause "It must have an object". Look up the grammatical meaning of the word "object". It is neither the same as its meaning in programming, nor in the way that you interpreted it. Hint: it says "have an object", not "be an object" (but even that is not strictly true -- it must be able to take an object, not always have one).

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                            Yes, this is why they didnt use memory foam for the couches in space ships of course. :doh:

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                            Your bedroom (which I shouldn't be surprised to find is in the basement of your mother's house) may be done up like a spaceship, but the rest of us have grown-ups' furniture.

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                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              WTF has the etymology of the words got to do with anything?

                              Indeed, what has its original meaning got to do with its meaning eh? :doh: Lay or lie ? - English Grammar Today - Cambridge Dictionary[^] "The verb lay means ‘to put something down carefully in a flat position’. It must have an object. " "Lie is a verb which means ‘to be in or put yourself into a flat position’. ... the past simple is lay" And of course as with all weak/strong forms of verbs you can use 'lied' as well as 'lay' as the past simple of 'to lie'. So 'she lied on the bed' is the same as 'she lay on the bed'. (if you dont know about weak strong verbs yet think about dived dove, weaved wove, etc. A strong form is one where the participle spelling is maintained in the past simple. ) But 'to lay' as a verb is for an object.

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                                Your lack of knowledge of English grammar is amply demonstrated by your mindless misinterpretation of the clause "It must have an object". Look up the grammatical meaning of the word "object". It is neither the same as its meaning in programming, nor in the way that you interpreted it. Hint: it says "have an object", not "be an object" (but even that is not strictly true -- it must be able to take an object, not always have one).

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                I didnt say 'be an object' I said 'lay for objects'. Moron.

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                                  Your bedroom (which I shouldn't be surprised to find is in the basement of your mother's house) may be done up like a spaceship, but the rest of us have grown-ups' furniture.

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                                  NASA saved cash didnt they, when they designed couches for astronauts to lie in, for days. They just wanted cheap didnt they, fuck the comfort, fuck it all, so long as its cheap. Thats why they invented memory foam, because it is cheap isnt it, much cheaper than springs. You really are a massive idiot Mark. Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

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                                    I wouldnt even call him a paradox, just wrong, every single time.

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                                      I didnt say 'be an object' I said 'lay for objects'. Moron.

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      Moron

                                      Your new signature is highly appropriate. Let's hope it's not a transitive thing (which is unlikely, because you obviously don't know the meaning of "transitive").

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                                        NASA saved cash didnt they, when they designed couches for astronauts to lie in, for days. They just wanted cheap didnt they, fuck the comfort, fuck it all, so long as its cheap. Thats why they invented memory foam, because it is cheap isnt it, much cheaper than springs. You really are a massive idiot Mark. Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

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                                        Y'know, if you take a face tissue, the kind that's meant for blowing your nose, and try to mop up spilled milk with it, it doesn't do a very good job of it. And if you try to mop up spilled milk with kitchen tissues, they do a good job -- but they won't half make your nose sore, if you use them to blow your nose. The differences between a couch on a spaceship and the bed in a bedroom of a normal house are way greater than the differences between the two types of tissue, because they are designed to serve extremely different functions, and they follow technological patterns that are worlds apart. Of course, a troll won't care about that kind of thing. He'll just cling on to a ridiculous argument, and continually insult people who point out that what he's saying makes no bleeding sense whatsoever.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          Y'know, if you take a face tissue, the kind that's meant for blowing your nose, and try to mop up spilled milk with it, it doesn't do a very good job of it. And if you try to mop up spilled milk with kitchen tissues, they do a good job -- but they won't half make your nose sore, if you use them to blow your nose. The differences between a couch on a spaceship and the bed in a bedroom of a normal house are way greater than the differences between the two types of tissue, because they are designed to serve extremely different functions, and they follow technological patterns that are worlds apart. Of course, a troll won't care about that kind of thing. He'll just cling on to a ridiculous argument, and continually insult people who point out that what he's saying makes no bleeding sense whatsoever.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                          Memory Foam | NASA[^] "Perhaps the most widely recognized NASA spinoff, memory foam was invented by NASA-funded researchers looking for ways to keep test pilots cushioned during flights. Today, memory foam makes for more comfortable beds, couches and chairs, not to mention better shoes, movie theater seats and even football helmets." Yeah, so massively different it has NO application at all for the rest of us. /sarcasm Idiot.

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