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  • Z ZurdoDev

    Lopatir wrote:

    linux is a good start

    If that were actually true, Microsoft would have been gone long ago. :^)

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    realJSOP
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    #8

    I recently migrated all the machines at home to Linux because I refuse to use Win10.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • J Johnny J

      Can't do - it's my work conputer. Gotta have a minimum of security on it... :sigh:

      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
      Anonymous
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      The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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      Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
      Mark Twain

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      OriginalGriff
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      I'm running Win10 Home but other than that it's the same as yours: 1803 Build 17134.523 And if I use WIN+L to lock the screen I just get a "pretty picture" - I get no ads. Have you changed anything recently?

      Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        Lopatir wrote:

        linux is a good start

        If that were actually true, Microsoft would have been gone long ago. :^)

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        Munchies_Matt
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        #10

        For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is. For specialist office work, CAD CAM, what we do with VS, it isnt.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I'm running Win10 Home but other than that it's the same as yours: 1803 Build 17134.523 And if I use WIN+L to lock the screen I just get a "pretty picture" - I get no ads. Have you changed anything recently?

          Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Johnny J
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          Not that I know of. I get the pretty pictures as well, but some times (not all the time) there are 2-3 links on top of the pretty picture to what appears to be commercial and/or gaming sites. :mad: Started December 21st for me...

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
          Anonymous
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          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
          Winston Churchill, 1944
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          Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
          Mark Twain

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            I recently migrated all the machines at home to Linux because I refuse to use Win10.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            RickZeeland
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            But you are thinking about driving a Skoda, admit it :laugh:

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is. For specialist office work, CAD CAM, what we do with VS, it isnt.

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              RickZeeland
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              Quote:

              The drinking dens are spilling out There's staggering in the square There's lads and lasses falling about And a crackling in the air Down around the dungeon doors The shelters and the queues Everybody's looking for Somebody's arms to fall into And it's what it is It's what it is now

              :-\

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              • J Johnny J

                Win 10 Pro 1803 (17134.523) :sigh:

                Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                Anonymous
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                The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                Winston Churchill, 1944
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                Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                Mark Twain

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                Thanks, I'm interested and I'll check mine when I get home. We are on an older Enterprise 1709 version at work. As I looked at the version you posted and then looked up win10 versions (Windows 10 version history - Wikipedia[^]) I was struck by the fact that it was so much easier in the past to determine/differentiate which version of windows I had installed. Windows XP SP3, etc. Now, I've seen these new versions 100 times and I still don't remember anything about which version is installed on my pc at home. It's really stupid. :sigh:

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I recently migrated all the machines at home to Linux because I refuse to use Win10.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                  -----
                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  #15

                  I tried linux years ago just to save money from buying a Win 7 license. Worst decision. I should have paid the $100 for Windows.

                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                  • M Munchies_Matt

                    For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is. For specialist office work, CAD CAM, what we do with VS, it isnt.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is.

                    No way. When I installed Linux I had to find crazy command lines just to get network drivers to work. Then other command lines to enable basic OS features. You're telling me that regular home and office users want to deal with that? No way.

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is.

                      No way. When I installed Linux I had to find crazy command lines just to get network drivers to work. Then other command lines to enable basic OS features. You're telling me that regular home and office users want to deal with that? No way.

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      #17

                      Did you try Ubuntu? It works right out of the box. In fact it is very stable, reliable and quick.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        Lopatir wrote:

                        linux is a good start

                        If that were actually true, Microsoft would have been gone long ago. :^)

                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                        Lost User
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                        #18

                        ..similar to how Betamax was the ruling format, and not VHS? The idea that the best wins, is utter nonsense.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          Did you try Ubuntu? It works right out of the box. In fact it is very stable, reliable and quick.

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                          Did you try Ubuntu? It works right out of the box.

                          Ya, but it didn't work for me. So many command lines just to get it up and running.

                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            ..similar to how Betamax was the ruling format, and not VHS? The idea that the best wins, is utter nonsense.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            is utter nonsense.

                            Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            The idea that the best wins,

                            It does most of the time, no?

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            • Z ZurdoDev

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              is utter nonsense.

                              Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              The idea that the best wins,

                              It does most of the time, no?

                              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              ZurdoDev wrote:

                              Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                              I'm not :)

                              ZurdoDev wrote:

                              It does most of the time, no?

                              Rarely. The best PR usually wins; that's how democracy and capitalism both work; on perception, not actual merits. People come here and ask which software is "best" for their problem; they want opinions, they don't like to make a list with advantages and disadvantages to judge it.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                I tried linux years ago just to save money from buying a Win 7 license. Worst decision. I should have paid the $100 for Windows.

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                I did it for different reasons. Money wasn't the root issue, but it is admittedly a secondary or tertiary factor. When Win7 goes tits-up next year, my only alternative is to go Win10 or Linux. I refuse to infect my machine with Win10, so Linux got the nod. It hasn't been all roses, but for thwe most part, I have no issues. I still run a Win7 VM for as long as Visual Studio will run on it. Downside - I can't run any SQL server newer than 2014 because 20116 and up will not run on Win7. However, there's a version of SQL server for Linux, so it's all good.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  Did you try Ubuntu? It works right out of the box.

                                  Ya, but it didn't work for me. So many command lines just to get it up and running.

                                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  I had to install some additional software on top of ubuntu but it wasn't an oppressive task. The reason the commandline is so pervasive on KLinux is the because of the number of possible GUIs taht are available. It's difficult to write a GUI tool that supports all the available desktop platforms, and commandline always works. Linux's flexibility is its biggest downfall.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                  -----
                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                                    Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                                    I'm not :)

                                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                                    It does most of the time, no?

                                    Rarely. The best PR usually wins; that's how democracy and capitalism both work; on perception, not actual merits. People come here and ask which software is "best" for their problem; they want opinions, they don't like to make a list with advantages and disadvantages to judge it.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    Johnny J
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                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                                    Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                                    I'm not :)

                                    I *AM* - It was completely idiotic that VHS won over Betamax. I'm STILL upset by that!!! :mad:

                                    Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                                    Anonymous
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                                    The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                                    Winston Churchill, 1944
                                    -----
                                    Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
                                    Mark Twain

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      For email and web home users, it is. For basic office users, it is.

                                      No way. When I installed Linux I had to find crazy command lines just to get network drivers to work. Then other command lines to enable basic OS features. You're telling me that regular home and office users want to deal with that? No way.

                                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                      You did something terribly wrong. My 12.5 years old girl works on a Fedora machine and she doesn't know how command like looks like...

                                      "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

                                      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        ZurdoDev wrote:

                                        Don't be so emotional. :doh:

                                        I'm not :)

                                        ZurdoDev wrote:

                                        It does most of the time, no?

                                        Rarely. The best PR usually wins; that's how democracy and capitalism both work; on perception, not actual merits. People come here and ask which software is "best" for their problem; they want opinions, they don't like to make a list with advantages and disadvantages to judge it.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        ZurdoDev
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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        Rarely

                                        OK. :rolleyes:

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          I did it for different reasons. Money wasn't the root issue, but it is admittedly a secondary or tertiary factor. When Win7 goes tits-up next year, my only alternative is to go Win10 or Linux. I refuse to infect my machine with Win10, so Linux got the nod. It hasn't been all roses, but for thwe most part, I have no issues. I still run a Win7 VM for as long as Visual Studio will run on it. Downside - I can't run any SQL server newer than 2014 because 20116 and up will not run on Win7. However, there's a version of SQL server for Linux, so it's all good.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                          -----
                                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          I refuse to infect my machine with Win10

                                          :laugh: For me, it has been their best OS yet. :^)

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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