USB HUBS
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You might as well say that the person who invented money invented capitalism. The idea of using a market to fund companies' growth has got nothing to do with capitalism. It was capitalism that turned that market into a betting shop. Now go away, troll, and look up the word "capitalism" in a dictionary, not on wikipedia.
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'Raising capital', 'venture funding', these were all Dutch inventions I believe, as is the ability of a government to issue debt. Isnt the fact that many of these Dutch ships, each one a 'pop up company', created and funded by shares, for one voyage only, never returned make it a bet? Those did return, laden with spices, made vast profits of thousands of percent for the shareholders, the average joe who bought his 1 gilder share. FOr someone living in Holland to suggest America invented all this is rather silly, and quite frankly daft, I would be proud of the fact!
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'Raising capital', 'venture funding', these were all Dutch inventions I believe, as is the ability of a government to issue debt. Isnt the fact that many of these Dutch ships, each one a 'pop up company', created and funded by shares, for one voyage only, never returned make it a bet? Those did return, laden with spices, made vast profits of thousands of percent for the shareholders, the average joe who bought his 1 gilder share. FOr someone living in Holland to suggest America invented all this is rather silly, and quite frankly daft, I would be proud of the fact!
Munchies_Matt wrote:
'Raising capital', 'venture funding', these were all Dutch inventions I believe, as is the ability of a government to issue debt.
And they have nothing to do with capitalism. Some of them may be used by capitalists, but so are a lot of things -- "the ability of a government to issue debt" not being one of them, as it can be defined as anti-capitalist (I told you to use a dictionary, not wikipedia).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Isnt the fact that many of these Dutch ships, each one a 'pop up company', created and funded by shares, for one voyage only, never returned make it a bet?
No. Each ship's failure to return was a tragedy, to the sailors, their families, and their communities. But I wouldn't expect you to show any respect to those who died the worst possible death at sea, so I am not surprised by your illogical abuse of their memory, in your trolling.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Those did return, laden with spices, made vast profits of thousands of percent for the shareholders, the average joe who bought his 1 gilder share.
Investment is not capitalism. They are separate words, with very different meanings.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
FOr someone living in Holland
I do not live in Holland.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
suggest America invented all this
I did not suggest that the US invented investment, the stock exchange, capitalism, or any of the other things mentioned in this thread, troll.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
'Raising capital', 'venture funding', these were all Dutch inventions I believe, as is the ability of a government to issue debt.
And they have nothing to do with capitalism. Some of them may be used by capitalists, but so are a lot of things -- "the ability of a government to issue debt" not being one of them, as it can be defined as anti-capitalist (I told you to use a dictionary, not wikipedia).
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Isnt the fact that many of these Dutch ships, each one a 'pop up company', created and funded by shares, for one voyage only, never returned make it a bet?
No. Each ship's failure to return was a tragedy, to the sailors, their families, and their communities. But I wouldn't expect you to show any respect to those who died the worst possible death at sea, so I am not surprised by your illogical abuse of their memory, in your trolling.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Those did return, laden with spices, made vast profits of thousands of percent for the shareholders, the average joe who bought his 1 gilder share.
Investment is not capitalism. They are separate words, with very different meanings.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
FOr someone living in Holland
I do not live in Holland.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
suggest America invented all this
I did not suggest that the US invented investment, the stock exchange, capitalism, or any of the other things mentioned in this thread, troll.
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Soapbox for further rantings please.
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Soapbox for further rantings please.
Now, why would you be saying this to me? Talk to the troll, if you want the Lounge to remain an hospitable place.
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It's just a typical capitalist ploy. USB hubs were being produced for next to nothing and sold really cheap, and the marketing/sales morons couldn't do anything about it. Then came USB 3, which gave them a chance to pretend that it was a new product -- one that had a captive market, because no-one would want USB 2 hubs, any more. So now USB 3 hubs are being produced for next to nothing and sold with immense profit margins, and we customers suckers can't do a damned thing about it. It's capitalism; the American way. Be proud that you're part of it.
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My USB hub is just worn out. Looked at... * TigerDirect * BestBuy * eBay * Amazon What ever happend to the simple inexpensive USB hub ? Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.
We have a product that for reasons that only make sense to marketing, has what is known as "the dongle farm". It looks something like this:
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+-----+Each dongle represents support for one 'thing'. For customers with multiple machines, this lets them move 'thing' support from one machine to another. Fortunately, the pinhead software types on the product didn't have to solve this problem. The hardware folks and the marketing wabbos, after a drunken orgy of TLA schtuppage, decided on this solution.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
can't do a damned thing about it.
Then no, it's not the American way. :doh:
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Don't feel insulted; it's the way US companies behave. Not your fault.
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Now, why would you be saying this to me? Talk to the troll, if you want the Lounge to remain an hospitable place.
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I meant both of you.
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Don't feel insulted; it's the way US companies behave. Not your fault.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Don't feel insulted
Even though you try to, I don't feel insulted. However, the point is in the US, you CAN do something about it. You never have to settle.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Don't feel insulted
Even though you try to, I don't feel insulted. However, the point is in the US, you CAN do something about it. You never have to settle.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Even though you try to
WTF gave you that impression? Taking a poke at people who hike up price to five times what they should be, the first chance they get, is not taking a poke at the 250,000,000 decent US people.
ZurdoDev wrote:
You never have to settle.
How do you figure that? Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?
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I meant both of you.
Well, ranting about the behaviour of tech firms is one of the things the Lounge is here for. Trolling, on the other hand, is not.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Even though you try to
WTF gave you that impression? Taking a poke at people who hike up price to five times what they should be, the first chance they get, is not taking a poke at the 250,000,000 decent US people.
ZurdoDev wrote:
You never have to settle.
How do you figure that? Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?
Yes. I can make my own and sell them cheaper. America!
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?
Yes. I can make my own and sell them cheaper. America!
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Send me your business card, when you're set up. (If you go through gofundme or whatever, you can tell them that you've already got one faithful customer.)
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My USB hub is just worn out. Looked at... * TigerDirect * BestBuy * eBay * Amazon What ever happend to the simple inexpensive USB hub ? Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.
C-P-User-3 wrote:
Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.
...and did you like those $8 hubs? In my experience, the good USB hubs are powered, and a lot more expensive than the cheapest ones you can find--but the same can be said for most things. If they're not powered, good luck actually using 2 or 3 devices on that 8-port hub.
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I meant both of you.
Who is ranting, certainly not me. It was a calm and considered discussion about the origins of the modern financial world. As least that is the way I see it. :)
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C-P-User-3 wrote:
Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.
...and did you like those $8 hubs? In my experience, the good USB hubs are powered, and a lot more expensive than the cheapest ones you can find--but the same can be said for most things. If they're not powered, good luck actually using 2 or 3 devices on that 8-port hub.
Excellent observations. What I found was that the powered one that I had was defacto un-powered. I was able to use an external keyboard, a mouse, and usually 2 or 3 thumb drives. After awhile (don't have an accurate number of days/weeks/months) the physical plugs started losing their ability to physically connect. Then again, for $8, and the thing lasting 2+ years, well, pretty good value in terms of price/performance.