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  • M MarkTJohnson

    Soapbox for further rantings please.

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Now, why would you be saying this to me? Talk to the troll, if you want the Lounge to remain an hospitable place.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      It's just a typical capitalist ploy. USB hubs were being produced for next to nothing and sold really cheap, and the marketing/sales morons couldn't do anything about it. Then came USB 3, which gave them a chance to pretend that it was a new product -- one that had a captive market, because no-one would want USB 2 hubs, any more. So now USB 3 hubs are being produced for next to nothing and sold with immense profit margins, and we customers suckers can't do a damned thing about it. It's capitalism; the American way. Be proud that you're part of it.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      ZurdoDev
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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      can't do a damned thing about it.

      Then no, it's not the American way. :doh:

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      • C C P User 3

        My USB hub is just worn out. Looked at... * TigerDirect * BestBuy * eBay * Amazon What ever happend to the simple inexpensive USB hub ? Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.

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        Gary Wheeler
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        We have a product that for reasons that only make sense to marketing, has what is known as "the dongle farm". It looks something like this:

        +-----+
        | | +-----+
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | +-->| Hub +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | +-----+
        | |
        | | +-----+
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | +-->| Hub +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | +-----+
        | Hub |
        | | +-----+
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | +-->| Hub +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | +-----+
        | |
        | | +-----+
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | +-->| Hub +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | | +--> Dongle
        | | +-----+
        +-----+

        Each dongle represents support for one 'thing'. For customers with multiple machines, this lets them move 'thing' support from one machine to another. Fortunately, the pinhead software types on the product didn't have to solve this problem. The hardware folks and the marketing wabbos, after a drunken orgy of TLA schtuppage, decided on this solution.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          Mark_Wallace wrote:

          can't do a damned thing about it.

          Then no, it's not the American way. :doh:

          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Don't feel insulted; it's the way US companies behave. Not your fault.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Now, why would you be saying this to me? Talk to the troll, if you want the Lounge to remain an hospitable place.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            MarkTJohnson
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            I meant both of you.

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              Don't feel insulted; it's the way US companies behave. Not your fault.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              ZurdoDev
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              Mark_Wallace wrote:

              Don't feel insulted

              Even though you try to, I don't feel insulted. However, the point is in the US, you CAN do something about it. You never have to settle.

              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                Don't feel insulted

                Even though you try to, I don't feel insulted. However, the point is in the US, you CAN do something about it. You never have to settle.

                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                ZurdoDev wrote:

                Even though you try to

                WTF gave you that impression? Taking a poke at people who hike up price to five times what they should be, the first chance they get, is not taking a poke at the 250,000,000 decent US people.

                ZurdoDev wrote:

                You never have to settle.

                How do you figure that? Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • M MarkTJohnson

                  I meant both of you.

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Well, ranting about the behaviour of tech firms is one of the things the Lounge is here for. Trolling, on the other hand, is not.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                    Even though you try to

                    WTF gave you that impression? Taking a poke at people who hike up price to five times what they should be, the first chance they get, is not taking a poke at the 250,000,000 decent US people.

                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                    You never have to settle.

                    How do you figure that? Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?

                    Yes. I can make my own and sell them cheaper. America!

                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Can you somehow make them charge what the USB 3 devices are really worth?

                      Yes. I can make my own and sell them cheaper. America!

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Send me your business card, when you're set up. (If you go through gofundme or whatever, you can tell them that you've already got one faithful customer.)

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • C C P User 3

                        My USB hub is just worn out. Looked at... * TigerDirect * BestBuy * eBay * Amazon What ever happend to the simple inexpensive USB hub ? Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.

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                        dandy72
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                        C-P-User-3 wrote:

                        Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.

                        ...and did you like those $8 hubs? In my experience, the good USB hubs are powered, and a lot more expensive than the cheapest ones you can find--but the same can be said for most things. If they're not powered, good luck actually using 2 or 3 devices on that 8-port hub.

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                        • M MarkTJohnson

                          I meant both of you.

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Who is ranting, certainly not me. It was a calm and considered discussion about the origins of the modern financial world. As least that is the way I see it. :)

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                          • D dandy72

                            C-P-User-3 wrote:

                            Used to be $8 and you get 8 ports.

                            ...and did you like those $8 hubs? In my experience, the good USB hubs are powered, and a lot more expensive than the cheapest ones you can find--but the same can be said for most things. If they're not powered, good luck actually using 2 or 3 devices on that 8-port hub.

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                            C P User 3
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                            Excellent observations. What I found was that the powered one that I had was defacto un-powered. I was able to use an external keyboard, a mouse, and usually 2 or 3 thumb drives. After awhile (don't have an accurate number of days/weeks/months) the physical plugs started losing their ability to physically connect. Then again, for $8, and the thing lasting 2+ years, well, pretty good value in terms of price/performance.

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