Brexit: Why vote Leave
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Given the Syrian migrant crisis, there are now a very large number of non-EU migrants inside the EU. So control of the borders does actually present an opportunity to limit non-EU migration in that regard...
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Given the Syrian migrant crisis, there are now a very large number of non-EU migrants inside the EU. So control of the borders does actually present an opportunity to limit non-EU migration in that regard...
You are not even part of Schengen. Besides for non-EU citizens (which the migrants are) there is no free flow in the first place, even for Schengen. You have to enforce your damn laws. That would actually solve the problem. Here a graph for the actual number: [Migrant crisis: EU leaders plan secure migrant centres - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44652846) The numbers have fallen to small fraction of the crisis.
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DO you think you are clever in saying that?
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After March 29th you won't be getting any EU-immigration. The polish plumber will be replaced by an african or indian one. But we have to wait and see it unfolding :)
Dont you understand anything? We will be able to control our immigration. Millions of immigrants flocked to Europe, welcomed by Eurocrats, and Merkel. They then dictated how many each country will take. On leaving the EU it will be our decision who we let into the country.
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Given the Syrian migrant crisis, there are now a very large number of non-EU migrants inside the EU. So control of the borders does actually present an opportunity to limit non-EU migration in that regard...
Not to mention the fact that the EU actually invited these people in, and then dictated how many each country will take.
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Well, getting rid of a super privileged gold member will certainly reduce the tensions within the club.
Only for Johnny Foreigner, and that's largely why we joined in the first place /s
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Only for Johnny Foreigner, and that's largely why we joined in the first place /s
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
Here are the special exceptions that were made for the UK to keep them happy, exceptions, which no other member can even dream to enjoy: [Europe ‘à la carte’: The whats and whys behind UK opt-outs – EURACTIV.com](https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/linksdossier/europe-a-la-carte-the-whats-and-whys-behind-uk-opt-outs/) Getting rid of the UK levels the playing field and strengthens the community. It's a good thing that you are leaving. I wish you all the good luck you can have.
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Dont you understand anything? We will be able to control our immigration. Millions of immigrants flocked to Europe, welcomed by Eurocrats, and Merkel. They then dictated how many each country will take. On leaving the EU it will be our decision who we let into the country.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
We will be able to control our immigration
Oh! Heaven forbid! It's almost like you want a wall or something to keep people out. What will the liberals think? If you can't discern the sarcasm in that :sigh: Each nation should be able to control immigration into its borders.
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Dont you understand anything? We will be able to control our immigration. Millions of immigrants flocked to Europe, welcomed by Eurocrats, and Merkel. They then dictated how many each country will take. On leaving the EU it will be our decision who we let into the country.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
We will be able to control our immigration.
All countries should be able to control their immigration. Many of those countries wish they could have prevented the British from invading them.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
We will be able to control our immigration.
All countries should be able to control their immigration. Many of those countries wish they could have prevented the British from invading them.
To be fair, Europe is thankful to the british for beating the nazis. However the EU and the UK are better off separately. The EU is finally starting to see that. But indeed the british blaming the EU for their failure to control immigration is BS. It's a freaking island. All they have to do is control passports, which they actually do and ship the illegals back to France.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
We will be able to control our immigration
Oh! Heaven forbid! It's almost like you want a wall or something to keep people out. What will the liberals think? If you can't discern the sarcasm in that :sigh: Each nation should be able to control immigration into its borders.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
Each nation should be able to control immigration into its borders.
This is one of the main reasons the Brexit vote won.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
We will be able to control our immigration.
All countries should be able to control their immigration. Many of those countries wish they could have prevented the British from invading them.
And how long do we have to keep paying for that?
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To be fair, Europe is thankful to the british for beating the nazis. However the EU and the UK are better off separately. The EU is finally starting to see that. But indeed the british blaming the EU for their failure to control immigration is BS. It's a freaking island. All they have to do is control passports, which they actually do and ship the illegals back to France.
EU human rights law means we cant even deport illegals.
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Here are the special exceptions that were made for the UK to keep them happy, exceptions, which no other member can even dream to enjoy: [Europe ‘à la carte’: The whats and whys behind UK opt-outs – EURACTIV.com](https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/linksdossier/europe-a-la-carte-the-whats-and-whys-behind-uk-opt-outs/) Getting rid of the UK levels the playing field and strengthens the community. It's a good thing that you are leaving. I wish you all the good luck you can have.
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Here are the special exceptions that were made for the UK to keep them happy, exceptions, which no other member can even dream to enjoy: [Europe ‘à la carte’: The whats and whys behind UK opt-outs – EURACTIV.com](https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/linksdossier/europe-a-la-carte-the-whats-and-whys-behind-uk-opt-outs/) Getting rid of the UK levels the playing field and strengthens the community. It's a good thing that you are leaving. I wish you all the good luck you can have.
I think you missed the /s at the end of the post.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
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After March 29th you won't be getting any EU-immigration. The polish plumber will be replaced by an african or indian one. But we have to wait and see it unfolding :)
Yes, but at least those Africans and Indians will really want to be here... UK VISA Requirements for Non-EU residents: * CEFR A1 (soon to be A2) in Speaking and Listening, except for majority-English speaking countries (B1 for Indefinite Leave to Remain VISAs) - £160+ for 6-12 minutes! * X-ray proof of not having Tuberculosis * £300/400 per year for IHS (Immigration Health Surcharge) * £350-1523 for a VISA over 6 months (except student/medical) - and £2389 for ILR, which can only normally be accessed after 5/10 years of settlement * ILR VISA also requires "Life in UK" test, at £50 a pop In addition, non-EU residents have to pay council tax, but get none of the benefits (a.k.a. universal credit) - and the IHS covers the "free" NHS. Current UK Entry Requirements for EU residents: * ... And just to add more fun to the mix, until March last year, the ILR VISA was not online, so the payment method required writing sensitive financial data (if not using the thoroughly modern Postal Orders) as part of a paper application (the form itself was 73 pages). Guess who has had all that stress last year?
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Yes, but at least those Africans and Indians will really want to be here... UK VISA Requirements for Non-EU residents: * CEFR A1 (soon to be A2) in Speaking and Listening, except for majority-English speaking countries (B1 for Indefinite Leave to Remain VISAs) - £160+ for 6-12 minutes! * X-ray proof of not having Tuberculosis * £300/400 per year for IHS (Immigration Health Surcharge) * £350-1523 for a VISA over 6 months (except student/medical) - and £2389 for ILR, which can only normally be accessed after 5/10 years of settlement * ILR VISA also requires "Life in UK" test, at £50 a pop In addition, non-EU residents have to pay council tax, but get none of the benefits (a.k.a. universal credit) - and the IHS covers the "free" NHS. Current UK Entry Requirements for EU residents: * ... And just to add more fun to the mix, until March last year, the ILR VISA was not online, so the payment method required writing sensitive financial data (if not using the thoroughly modern Postal Orders) as part of a paper application (the form itself was 73 pages). Guess who has had all that stress last year?
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I hope you pay your EU taxes, like a good citizen. They are going to be a few billion short when we leave.